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Old 12-22-10, 12:56 AM   #1
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Well they qualify for jobs in medical testing, so it's not all bad news.......
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Old 12-22-10, 04:04 AM   #2
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Old 12-22-10, 08:12 AM   #3
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Add in the numbers of those that don't physically qualify, it goe's way up. Some polls show another 40% wouldn't physically qualify today, only to get worse later.

Anyone that has children in school can see teachers no longer teach subjects, they teach kids how to pass test.
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Old 12-22-10, 11:42 AM   #4
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Add in the numbers of those that don't physically qualify, it goe's way up. Some polls show another 40% wouldn't physically qualify today, only to get worse later.

Anyone that has children in school can see teachers no longer teach subjects, they teach kids how to pass test.
Yes, I do see this, they have the lessons to go along with tests.

(and most of the kids are not so bright ither.)
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Old 12-22-10, 01:27 PM   #5
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Add in the numbers of those that don't physically qualify, it goe's way up. Some polls show another 40% wouldn't physically qualify today, only to get worse later.

Anyone that has children in school can see teachers no longer teach subjects, they teach kids how to pass test.
Do they teach spelling and grammar? Are those requirements for enlistment?
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Old 12-22-10, 08:18 AM   #6
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Well they qualify for jobs in medical testing, so it's not all bad news.......
If this thread runs long enough you'll see 20% here, aren't bright enough to get the joke you said.
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If this thread runs long enough you'll see 20% here, aren't bright enough to get the joke you said.
Uh, what are you guys talking about?







23% doesn't seem like a very big number. That's far lower than the percentage of sleepy, unresponsive high school grads in some of the college courses I took.
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Old 12-22-10, 09:46 AM   #8
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Based on what I see at work, I'd say that the figure is pretty accurate, even for the whole society. I would guess that about a fifth of the students that I see in class can't really handle the college workload either. A lot of them end up dropping out after the semester is over. For them, college was a short, albeit expensive detour in life.
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Too dumb? Or just too uneducated? There is a difference.
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Too dumb? Or just too uneducated? There is a difference.
Neal, if one can't pass the ASVAB to join even the army.. they REALLY are dumb. The ASVAB is really NOT that hard.

edit: I don't remember what my overall score was on the ASVAB ('twas years ago when i took it), but i do remember i scored a 95 in mechanical. Air force recruiter had me on the phone within two days of taking the test saying he was impressed with my scores. (and to think i was originally going to join the Army before that AF recruiter got a hold of me. )
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Based on what I see at work, I'd say that the figure is pretty accurate, even for the whole society. I would guess that about a fifth of the students that I see in class can't really handle the college workload either. A lot of them end up dropping out after the semester is over. For them, college was a short, albeit expensive detour in life.
I suppose your talking about a difficult subject?
My friends say that some subjects just take effort, while others need intelligence.

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The report by The Education Trust found that 23 percent of recent high school graduates don't get the minimum score needed on the enlistment test to join any branch of the military.
23 percent can't even be a grunt in the army?
how did they graduate from high school?
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I suppose your talking about a difficult subject?
My friends say that some subjects just take effort, while others need intelligence.
I am a professor of music, but I also serve as an academic advisor for a segment of the student body. When students have academic problems, especially first-year students, those problems tend to be across the board. Overall, I find it to be a combination of a lack of aptitude and an inabilty to adjust to the college environment, where no one is going to bother you over your homework, make sure you get to bed at a reasonable hour, make you get up and go to class and pay attention once you get there. Most students who end up dropping out tell me that they had no idea that college would be this hard. I tell them that college isn't all that hard. What is difficult is transition to being fully self-disciplined; having to manage one's own affairs without someone else chasing them around over it.

Much of the problem is that so much of what you are able to do later in life depends on what you have done in your youth, and youths are notoriously short-sighted.
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I am a professor of music, but I also serve as an academic advisor for a segment of the student body. When students have academic problems, especially first-year students, those problems tend to be across the board. Overall, I find it to be a combination of a lack of aptitude and an inabilty to adjust to the college environment, where no one is going to bother you over your homework, make sure you get to bed at a reasonable hour, make you get up and go to class and pay attention once you get there. Most students who end up dropping out tell me that they had no idea that college would be this hard. I tell them that college isn't all that hard. What is difficult is transition to being fully self-disciplined; having to manage one's own affairs without someone else chasing them around over it.

Much of the problem is that so much of what you are able to do later in life depends on what you have done in your youth, and youths are notoriously short-sighted.
I am a professor of music,that explains it that you do not like Frankie boy, which is certainly not in this thread, excuse infringement!
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