[REQ]Realistic Depth Charges

divittor · 12-20-10, 09:06 PM

Could somebody set the depths of Depth Charges to there actual capable depths in game.
Ie: Capability to only go to say 50m's 1939 ect.

I do not know the actual capabilities of them as they would have been throughout the war, but being destroyed at a depth of 150m in 1940 seems a bit far fetched?

Thanking someone in Advance.

divittor

Gerald · 12-20-10, 09:15 PM

I can not say for sure, but probably there are opportunities for it, but lost the realism of the game if you only allow 50 yards or similar

TheDarkWraith · 12-20-10, 09:18 PM

the DepthCharge controller does not have any provisions for specifying maximum depth let alone years. All depth charges will fall at the fall speed specified in the files to the depth set by the AI (+- depth precision specified in the files)

Vanilla · 12-21-10, 05:27 AM

The Royal Navy Type D depth charge was designated the Mark VII by 1939. ... New hydrostatic fuzes increased the maximum detonation depth to 900 feet. The Mark VII's 290 pound (130 kg) Amatol charge was estimated capable of splitting a 7/8-inch (22 mm) submarine pressure hull at a distance of 20 feet (6.1 m), and forcing the submarine to surface at twice that distance.Change of explosive to Torpex (or Minol) at the end of 1942 was estimated to increase those distances to 26 feet and 52 feet (7.9 m and 15.8 m).

divittor · 12-21-10, 01:48 PM

Ahh ty for the info guys.

So the charges could go down to 300m/900ft in 1939.

I guess I better not let em know I'm there then

Ducimus · 12-21-10, 04:16 PM

You can set an arbitrary depth on hedge hogs (at least in SH3), Air dropped bombs and air dropped depth charges as well, but not so on depth charges for reasons TDW already cited.

Being able to set a depth for DC's has been wanted since the earliest days of SH3. I suspect the only way it's possible, is a masterful hack job on controllers via a hex editor. However I also think its entirely possible the game code may not acknowledge a controller altered in this manner. I'm just guessing on all of this, i don't really know.

Sailor Steve · 12-21-10, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vanilla

The Royal Navy Type D depth charge was designated the Mark VII by 1939. ... New hydrostatic fuzes increased the maximum detonation depth to 900 feet. The Mark VII's 290 pound (130 kg) Amatol charge was estimated capable of splitting a 7/8-inch (22 mm) submarine pressure hull at a distance of 20 feet (6.1 m), and forcing the submarine to surface at twice that distance.Change of explosive to Torpex (or Minol) at the end of 1942 was estimated to increase those distances to 26 feet and 52 feet (7.9 m and 15.8 m).

Beat me to it. I like that.

A reference or link for the DC itself would have been nice, though.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WAMBR_ASW.htm

Vanilla · 12-22-10, 06:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Beat me to it. I like that.

A reference or link for the DC itself would have been nice, though.
http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WAMBR_ASW.htm

Now I am confused.

My quote was from Wiki (sorry not giving it straight away, I just forgot to do it when typing): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_charges that in turn references this book:
"Campbell, John, Naval Weapons of World War Two, New York, New York: Naval Institute Press, 1985, ISBN 0-87021-459-4, page 89"

Wiki states - 900ft while the link you gave says: "Settings 300 feet (91 m) max, later units 500 feet (182 m)"

What is correct?

12-20-10, 09:06 PM	#1
divittor Bosun Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 65 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	[REQ]Realistic Depth Charges Could somebody set the depths of Depth Charges to there actual capable depths in game. Ie: Capability to only go to say 50m's 1939 ect. I do not know the actual capabilities of them as they would have been throughout the war, but being destroyed at a depth of 150m in 1940 seems a bit far fetched? Thanking someone in Advance. divittor __________________ Don't dive, ram .

12-20-10, 09:15 PM	#2
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	I can not say for sure, but probably there are opportunities for it, but lost the realism of the game if you only allow 50 yards or similar __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

12-21-10, 01:48 PM	#5
divittor Bosun Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: UK Posts: 65 Downloads: 56 Uploads: 0	Ahh ty for the info guys. So the charges could go down to 300m/900ft in 1939. I guess I better not let em know I'm there then __________________ Don't dive, ram .

12-20-10, 09:18 PM	#3
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	the DepthCharge controller does not have any provisions for specifying maximum depth let alone years. All depth charges will fall at the fall speed specified in the files to the depth set by the AI (+- depth precision specified in the files)

12-21-10, 05:27 AM	#4
Vanilla Lieutenant Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: St. Petersburg, Russia Posts: 264 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	The Royal Navy Type D depth charge was designated the Mark VII by 1939. ... New hydrostatic fuzes increased the maximum detonation depth to 900 feet. The Mark VII's 290 pound (130 kg) Amatol charge was estimated capable of splitting a 7/8-inch (22 mm) submarine pressure hull at a distance of 20 feet (6.1 m), and forcing the submarine to surface at twice that distance.Change of explosive to Torpex (or Minol) at the end of 1942 was estimated to increase those distances to 26 feet and 52 feet (7.9 m and 15.8 m).

12-21-10, 04:16 PM	#6
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	You can set an arbitrary depth on hedge hogs (at least in SH3), Air dropped bombs and air dropped depth charges as well, but not so on depth charges for reasons TDW already cited. Being able to set a depth for DC's has been wanted since the earliest days of SH3. I suspect the only way it's possible, is a masterful hack job on controllers via a hex editor. However I also think its entirely possible the game code may not acknowledge a controller altered in this manner. I'm just guessing on all of this, i don't really know.