Some misunderstandings regarding Islam

Gargamel · 12-20-10, 04:18 PM

In before..... err.... umm....

Ok, well that was an excellent read.

Such a sad state the world is in when the .1% extremists of any group (That Kansas church, the pstor from florida, terroists, etc) are the 'accepted' representative of that group.

When 99% of a group looks at the 1% and says "what the **** bob?", the world shouldn't be holding Bob as the typical.

So let's all turn off our TV's, ignore the talking heads, and actually go meet other cultures we don't know about and get to know them.

Oh, right, this is real life..... sigh

AVGWarhawk · 12-20-10, 04:19 PM

In before...well...something.....

TLAM Strike · 12-20-10, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Gargamel

Such a sad state the world is in when the .1% extremists of any group (That Kansas church, the pstor from florida, terroists, etc) are the 'accepted' representative of that group.

When 99% of a group looks at the 1% and says "what the **** bob?", the world shouldn't be holding Bob as the typical.

Seems to be quite a bit more than 1%...

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/130-mil...inglepage=true

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Pew also provides each polled country’s percentages of support for al-Qaeda: 34 percent of Jordanians, 49 percent of Nigerian Muslims, 3 percent of Lebanese, 20 percent of Egyptians, 23 percent of Indonesians, 18 percent of Pakistanis, and 4 percent of Turks.

Nigeria, Egypt, Indonesia and Pakistan are four of the most populated Muslim countries.

XabbaRus · 12-20-10, 06:16 PM

ah pajamasmedia..that great institution of unbiased journalism.

This is the same outlet that Kim Zigfeld writes for linked to her blog la russophobe...

tater · 12-20-10, 08:14 PM

Thought it was pretty weak, actually.

While the notion that 10% are terrorists is obviously absurd, the reality is that a large % support terrorism. That doesn't mean they aid actual terrorism, but they agree with those that do it, and that makes it easy for the real terrorists to blend in. I have no idea what % of southerners were in the KKK, for example, but it's not just the members that matter, but the non-members that looked the other way. Ditto nazis—most were not party members, but most people looked the other way or otherwise supported them through action or INaction.

The whitewash int he article regarding Muslim rules of warfare is pretty funny. It ignores, for example, slavery of the captured. Slavery that was only eliminated in the late 1960s, in fact.

And while the idiotic, scientifically illiterate fundamentalists of other faiths (Christians) are also backwards, all major denominations of Islam are in fact literalists. NONE believe in the entire basis of modern cosmology or biology (both being mutually exclusive with biblical or koranic literalism).

Bottom line is that conflating Islam with the worst of Christianity is perfectly fine, but it's important to at least not that the numbers also matter. When the bulk of Christian, mainstream denominations act like Westboro Baptists, then the analogy works better.

onelifecrisis · 12-21-10, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

Thought it was pretty weak, actually.

ATTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!!!!

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12-20-10, 08:14 PM	#5
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Thought it was pretty weak, actually. While the notion that 10% are terrorists is obviously absurd, the reality is that a large % support terrorism. That doesn't mean they aid actual terrorism, but they agree with those that do it, and that makes it easy for the real terrorists to blend in. I have no idea what % of southerners were in the KKK, for example, but it's not just the members that matter, but the non-members that looked the other way. Ditto nazis—most were not party members, but most people looked the other way or otherwise supported them through action or INaction. The whitewash int he article regarding Muslim rules of warfare is pretty funny. It ignores, for example, slavery of the captured. Slavery that was only eliminated in the late 1960s, in fact. And while the idiotic, scientifically illiterate fundamentalists of other faiths (Christians) are also backwards, all major denominations of Islam are in fact literalists. NONE believe in the entire basis of modern cosmology or biology (both being mutually exclusive with biblical or koranic literalism). Bottom line is that conflating Islam with the worst of Christianity is perfectly fine, but it's important to at least not that the numbers also matter. When the bulk of Christian, mainstream denominations act like Westboro Baptists, then the analogy works better.