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Old 12-19-10, 10:54 PM   #1
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the possibility of this being true is really unlikely

Some ideas i got from a chinese forum:
"This is really unlikely, since the Taliban supports 东突(a Chinese Islamic terrorist organization)"
"China has a lot of investments in Afghanistan and Iraq. Many Chinese experts are sent there to support the local government, I do not believe that china will actually do this"
"China sells weapons to Pakistan, so it is most likely that the Taliban got Chinese equipment from Pakistan"
Well if they got these weapons from Pakistan or Iran than that would be in violation of the reexport prohibitions that are part of such arms deals. In such a case China must stop exporting weapons to these countries otherwise these prohibitions are meaningless and the Chinese are just as guilty.


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No, much more like Vietnam itself. Nothing sexy about it.
Well now that really depended on where you got to take your shore leave.
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Old 12-19-10, 11:33 PM   #2
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Well now that really depended on where you got to take your shore leave.
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Well if they got these weapons from Pakistan or Iran than that would be in violation of the reexport prohibitions that are part of such arms deals. In such a case China must stop exporting weapons to these countries otherwise these prohibitions are meaningless and the Chinese are just as guilty.
Where did the communist bloc weapons that were shipped to the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan come from and who was involved in that re exporting of weapons to terrorists?
Come to think of it wasn't Reagan involved in several illegal arms deals?
Glass houses eh
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Where did the communist bloc weapons that were shipped to the Mujahadeen in Afghanistan come from and who was involved in that re exporting of weapons to terrorists?
Those weapons we got from China for that, we didn't have any agreement about reexport.


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At least we were doing it to get our citizens back. What are the Chinese doing it for? Money...
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Old 12-20-10, 12:31 PM   #5
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Those weapons we got from China for that, we didn't have any agreement about reexport.


At least we were doing it to get our citizens back. What are the Chinese doing it for? Money...
Its all geopolitics, screwing with the us is pretty high on their priorities
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Old 12-20-10, 01:20 PM   #6
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Those weapons we got from China for that, we didn't have any agreement about reexport.
Did you have an agreement that the US weapons shipments could be re exported to third governments and non government groups?
Then again that small potatos when you have exports of US arms to groups and countries that are subject to arms embargos.
Hey your govt even has a long running habit of still suppling weapons to terrorists and governments after passing legislation explicitly banning the arms shipments to them
So sorry TLAM leave it to others to complain about China being dodgy as you support the same dodgy deals and your govt is equally as guilty as you are saying China is.

Ain't that a bugger when you find you are the moral equivalents of the chinese communist dictatorship
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Old 12-20-10, 02:12 PM   #7
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Ain't that a bugger when you find you are the moral equivalents of the chinese communist dictatorship
Now that's not really fair on the Chinese, Tribesman. They don't support such behaviour with votes.
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Old 12-20-10, 02:21 PM   #8
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Did you have an agreement that the US weapons shipments could be re exported to third governments and non government groups?
Then again that small potatos when you have exports of US arms to groups and countries that are subject to arms embargos.
Hey your govt even has a long running habit of still suppling weapons to terrorists and governments after passing legislation explicitly banning the arms shipments to them
So sorry TLAM leave it to others to complain about China being dodgy as you support the same dodgy deals and your govt is equally as guilty as you are saying China is.

Ain't that a bugger when you find you are the moral equivalents of the chinese communist dictatorship
But the stuff we export is generally defensive in nature. Chinese CSS-2 IRBMs don't defend airspace, F-15s do. The Varang and Gorshkov were not purchased to defend their own harbors. We only sell the purely offensive weapons to our close allies in NATO and the Asian Rim.

For every weapon we export to some shady group we export a hundred to an ally. All the Chinese seem to do is arm 3rd world despots. How many free and democratic nations arm their militaries with Chinese weapons?
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