Julian Assange arrested (merged)

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by krashkart

Assange hints that Wikileaks will release the dirt on Russia's leadership sometime next year. Is he INSANE?!?

I wonder if next year Russia will still saying he should be given the Nobel Peace Prize?

Probably.
But at the same time be dening they had him whacked.

[heartc]

Originally Posted by Skybird

It'S even more remarkable when considering that Wikileaks and similiar platforms by their mere existence somewhat illustrates the failure of classical newspaper journalism, and are a growing rival/threat to them. That'S why some newspapers seem to deny taking part in that initiative and instead fire another commentary salvo against Wikileaks' "crimes".

Example: German Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung today still has not participated, instead had a feuilleton essay accusing Wikileaks of treachery.

States have no rights to remain secret from their citizens, they have no private sphere, and must be exposed when failing by treacherous acts they commit themselves. The fourth power is failing in its necessary service to democratic state systems when it falls in line with a voluntary obedience to the demands of the state to be protected from its citizens. The state - if being serious about terms like liberty and freedom and democracy, should and must fear its citizens.

WHAT in the world is your problem?
Assange has recieved classified information and has forwarded it to North Korea. And Iran. And Syria. And Al-Quaida.
That is partaking in espionage. End of story.

[Skybird]

The full allegations against Assange.

Unseen police documents provide the first complete account of the allegations against the WikiLeaks founder.

Okay, I understand from this that Assange neither is a nice character (nobody ever denied that), nor that any crime took place. As I see it, two bitches are out for revenge, and making a little pocket money by selling themselves to the media. One of the two, as I linked in an early posting, is linked to an anti-Cuban organisation infiltrated by the CIA.

Girls, I have a simple advise for you and anyone else: don't screw around so losely just because somebody is famous or has not finished climbing on a tree when you have counted one-two-three.

Meanwhile it is reported the US is maybe constructing a deal with Manning to give him reliefs in his arrest if he would will to raise claims about Assange that Assange "ordered" him to steal material. The US seems to hope that this would enable charges over espionage, then. Some even are not disturbed enough not to demand the complete gagging of the free press if it reports more than what officials have said at official press conferences - which would turn the press into a serving propaganda tool of the establishment only. Well, we have had that in the GDR, and we still see it in states like Cuba, China, etc. Says something about some American politicians that they take these tyrannies as copyworth examples.

The genie is out of the bottle anyway, several other Wikileaks-cloned websites are open or are in preparation to get launched. Assange now is relatively unimportant, and executing any sort of example on him will not deter anyone anyway. Goivernments and organisations and companies better understand that they will not be able to hide from the people so easily anymore when they seek secrecy over their deeds.

A step for claiming back powers for the people, and against conspiracies by self-declared elites trying to evade and to erode the basic fundaments of democratic principles.

[MH]

Originally Posted by Skybird

A step for claiming back powers for the people, and against

Yes yes power to the peaple qustion is which peaple.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Skybird

The full allegations against Assange.

For those who didn't bother reading this long article, here are the Cliff Notes:

A lawyer is saying that his client is not guilty.

First time that's ever happened. Huh?

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by Platapus

For those who didn't bother reading this long article, here are the Cliff Notes:

A lawyer is saying that his client is not guilty.

First time that's ever happened. Huh?

There's a little more than that actually.

"We understand that both complainants admit to having initiated consensual sexual relations with Mr Assange. They do not complain of any physical injury. The first complainant did not make a complaint for six days (in which she hosted the respondent in her flat [actually her bed] and spoke in the warmest terms about him to her friends) until she discovered he had spent the night with the other complainant.

"The second complainant, too, failed to complain for several days until she found out about the first complainant: she claimed that after several acts of consensual sexual intercourse, she fell half asleep and thinks that he ejaculated without using a condom – a possibility about which she says they joked afterwards.

"Both complainants say they did not report him to the police for prosecution but only to require him to have an STD test. However, his Swedish lawyer has been shown evidence of their text messages which indicate that they were concerned to obtain money by going to a tabloid newspaper and were motivated by other matters including a desire for revenge."

[Platapus]

Whose quotes are those?

Assange's solicitor, Mark Stephens

[onelifecrisis]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Whose quotes are those?

Assange's solicitor, Mark Stephens

But he's saying a little more than "my client is not guilty".

[Skybird]

The Bank of America has stopped all financial transaction for Wikipedia.

Considering that Wikipeaida has announced revelations about at least one American major bank for the near future, I wonder if one should take note of this cable shedding new light on Visa and Master having blocked Wikileaks earlier.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010...isa-mastercard

Visa and Mastercard seem to have seriously lobbied for the Russians not shutting off their internal transaction market to these companies and making it illegal to transmit data on national transactions to foreign nations (means: the US).

For the Russians, the dominance of Visa and Mastercard on the Russian market (85% market share), is a serious concern, for they must fear that in case of a crisis or conflict America would strike by simply shutting down the national transaction services and by that doing serious damage to the Russian economy. That's why Russia wants to establish its own credit card system in Russia, and it is a very reasonable and healthy reason. I wonder why they even made any compromise now. The russian system will be establishe from 2012, but Visa and Msastercard will still be allowed to transmit data on national transactions done by these companies to America.

I wonder if the Bank of America is is the one being hit by the Wikileaks revelations, so that it acts like it does. Considering that BoA and Visa and Mastercard have no problem with doin g service for racist organisations and other highlyx dubious customers, the reasons mentioned so far that Wikileaks'S activities violates business contracts sounds like nothing but a foul excuse.

That the US government certainly did it'S share to convince these companies to help drying up Wikileaks, I think is not needed to be explained in detail.

I personally have drawn two consequences. I have cancelled both my Visa card and my Paypal account.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by onelifecrisis

But he's saying a little more than "my client is not guilty".

I paraphrased.

[Capt. Morgan]

From the article

On Monday Spamhaus became aware that the main Wikileaks website, wikileaks.org, was redirecting web traffic to a 3rd party mirror site, mirror.wikileaks.info. This new web site is hosted in a very dangerous "neighborhood", Webalta's 92.241.160.0/19 IP address space, a "blackhat" network which Spamhaus believes caters primarily to, or is under the control of, Russian cybercriminals.

In related news from the cyber-battlefield...

Spamhaus came under DDoS attack shortly after delivering its warning, and responded by accusing AnonOps of being the source. AnonOps strongly denies playing any part in the attack, raising speculation that this may be a classic "false flag" operation aimed at damaging both Wikileaks and AnonOps.


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Welcome to the world of information warfare.

[Dowly]

On Tuesday, 14-Dec-2010 Spamhaus has issued a statement wherein it labels wikileaks.info as "unsafe", as they consider our hosting company as a malware facilitator:

http://www.spamhaus.org/news.lasso?article=665

We find it very disturbing that Spamhaus labels a site as dangerous without even checking if there is any malware on it. We monitor the wikileaks.info site and we can guarantee that there is no malware on it. We do not know who else is hosted with Heihachi Ltd and it is none of our business. They provide reliable hosting to us. That's it.

While we are in favour of "Blacklists", be it for mail servers or web sites, they have to be compiled with care. Just listing whole IP blocks as "bad" may be quick and easy for the blacklist editors, but will harm hosters and web site users.

Wikileaks has been pulled from big hosters like Amazon. That's why we are using a "bulletproof" hoster that does not just kick a site when it gets a letter from government or a big company. Our hoster is giving home to many political sites like castor-schottern.org and should not be blocked just because they might have hosted some malware sites.

Fortunately, more responsible blacklists, like stopbadware.org (which protects the Firefox browser, for example), don't list us. We do hope that Spamhaus hasn't issued this statement due to political pressure.

Wikileaks.info will always be safe and clean. Promised:

Google Safe Browsing Check for wikileaks.info

Update (15-Dec-2010 17:00 PM GMT): Spamhaus has updated their statement to say that they don't blacklist us.

Update 2 (20-Dec-2010 8:00 AM GMT): In another statement update on 18-Dec-2010, Spamhaus states that they have been DDOSed by Anonops and they link us to Anonops. Spamhaus is wrong there again, we are in now way linked to Anonops. A day later (19-Dec-2010), Spamhaus corrects itself by now saying that Anonops was not DDOSing them. They now think it was Heihachi Ltd. (which is our hosting provider). We don't know if that is true or not, but Spamhaus seems to be very fast at pointing at somebody without proof. Bottomline: We are a group that supports Wikileaks with no connection to cybercriminals.

The wikileaks.info Team

http://wikileaks.info/press/spamhaus...wikileaks.html

[Capt. Morgan]

Originally Posted by Dowly

http://wikileaks.info/press/spamhaus...wikileaks.html

Thanks,

My first reaction to your post was that this defense of wikileaks.info came from Wikileaks.info, and so was equally suspect. However, having just visited wikileaks.info, I found that they have prominent links to several well-known and authentic mirrors of the original wikileaks site.

Possibly wikileaks greatest enemies may be among its friends.

[VipertheSniper]

Originally Posted by Skybird

One of the two, as I linked in an early posting, is linked to an anti-Cuban organisation infiltrated by the CIA.

Sorry but that connection is a bit far fetched

See here: http://rpzine.de/2010/12/das-cia-ger...lsche-freunde/