USS Theodore Roosevelt

iowa101 · 12-16-10, 11:42 AM

Ok i have a little time to kill over christmas and was wondering if anyone had any ideas on why the texture wont apply properly, i haven't had chance to wwork on it since i last came on, but i'm hoping to at least get the texture done soon with any help you guys can give.

if i explain the problem maybe that will help with a solution.

Well the texture goes onto the model itself, but the problem is it very small and so you get the texture being applied over and over giving a strange looking pattern.

Also i have a problem, the conning tower and the deck has a slight problem that when you apply a texture then it creates a defect sort of thing:

As you can see the texture keeps repeating and the circled parts are whats obviously wrong, if someone can help with the texture i would greatly appreciate it.

polyfiller · 12-16-10, 07:15 PM

Iowa - just a guess here, but you have the conning tower for an actual submarine showing and this will be using the SH4 stock render controller. IIRC (and possibly I don't ..) ... but when I was playing around converting SH3 to SH4 units, I rememebr the game engine get's the right hump if you force it to use two different render controllers...... take a look at a normal SH4 sub and then download and take a look at an SH3 unit (sub or ship, doesn't matter) - you will see the different render controllers towards the top of the .dat file.

Either way, I strongly recommend you modify the .dat file for the conning tower you are using to; 1) remove textures applied to the 3d model and 2) make the conning tower invisible - this is what we do for german units placed in game..... and actually, for a US / allied units in game, there is actually NO NEED for a conningtower unitpart to be configured... the game engine does not require it.... strange but true.

Having done this, apply a texture from a unit which works (look at the .dat file and copy/ paste node from working unit to yours) and then double check to make sure render controller is same type as unit you copied from. This SHOULD result in a properly displayed texture - even if it is not one which matches your ship.

As for doing anything more to create a working texture which matches your ship - someone else will have to help - I'm lost when it comes to creating textures ... but many on here can do it and must be able to help.

iowa101 · 12-17-10, 02:39 AM

thank you mate for that i'll see what i can do

iowa101 · 12-24-10, 03:43 AM

I'm still having trouble with the damn texture, i had a look at what you said, fiddled abit but nothing happened to it...it might be because i have little experience in it but i was wondering if you could take a look at it for me ??

iowa101 · 01-05-11, 12:40 PM

Alrighty then, i've had it up to here with this texture problem, if anyone at all can try for me that would be a great fekkin help, as i've come close to deleting all of it several times!!!

ETR3(SS) · 01-05-11, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by iowa101

Alrighty then, i've had it up to here with this texture problem, if anyone at all can try for me that would be a great fekkin help, as i've come close to deleting all of it several times!!!

I've been modding SH4 for about 7ish months now off and on, and I'm just begining to understand how to texture something simple like a modern submarine.

All of this was mostly trial and error work. To be honest your at a crossroads it seems, you can take the time to learn it and in a few months come out with something you like or, you can appeal to the masses to do it for you keeping in mind that they may not have the same level of interest in seeing this to fruition as you do. Or there's a third possibility still, that this may not be doable at all (usually this conclusion is reached after months of hard work). I'm not trying to quash your creativity, just giving you somethings to think about.

polyfiller · 01-06-11, 05:32 PM

Iowa - in the last screenshot you posted above it still looks to me like some textures are trying to be applied between the rigging from the Uboat conning tower and the flight deck.... as I stated above .... removed the conning tower from the UPCGE or go into the conning tower .dat file and make the whole thing invisible.

Also do a quick check for me .... in the main ship.dat file, do you see a node named unified render controller ?

12-16-10, 11:42 AM	#1
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	Ok i have a little time to kill over christmas and was wondering if anyone had any ideas on why the texture wont apply properly, i haven't had chance to wwork on it since i last came on, but i'm hoping to at least get the texture done soon with any help you guys can give. if i explain the problem maybe that will help with a solution. Well the texture goes onto the model itself, but the problem is it very small and so you get the texture being applied over and over giving a strange looking pattern. Also i have a problem, the conning tower and the deck has a slight problem that when you apply a texture then it creates a defect sort of thing: As you can see the texture keeps repeating and the circled parts are whats obviously wrong, if someone can help with the texture i would greatly appreciate it. __________________ "A good Navy is not a provocation to war. It is the surest guaranty of peace."

12-17-10, 02:39 AM	#3
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	thank you mate for that i'll see what i can do __________________ "A good Navy is not a provocation to war. It is the surest guaranty of peace."

12-24-10, 03:43 AM	#4
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	I'm still having trouble with the damn texture, i had a look at what you said, fiddled abit but nothing happened to it...it might be because i have little experience in it but i was wondering if you could take a look at it for me ?? __________________ "A good Navy is not a provocation to war. It is the surest guaranty of peace."

01-05-11, 12:40 PM	#5
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	Alrighty then, i've had it up to here with this texture problem, if anyone at all can try for me that would be a great fekkin help, as i've come close to deleting all of it several times!!! __________________ "A good Navy is not a provocation to war. It is the surest guaranty of peace."

12-16-10, 07:15 PM	#2
polyfiller Weps Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 359 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Iowa - just a guess here, but you have the conning tower for an actual submarine showing and this will be using the SH4 stock render controller. IIRC (and possibly I don't ..) ... but when I was playing around converting SH3 to SH4 units, I rememebr the game engine get's the right hump if you force it to use two different render controllers...... take a look at a normal SH4 sub and then download and take a look at an SH3 unit (sub or ship, doesn't matter) - you will see the different render controllers towards the top of the .dat file. Either way, I strongly recommend you modify the .dat file for the conning tower you are using to; 1) remove textures applied to the 3d model and 2) make the conning tower invisible - this is what we do for german units placed in game..... and actually, for a US / allied units in game, there is actually NO NEED for a conningtower unitpart to be configured... the game engine does not require it.... strange but true. Having done this, apply a texture from a unit which works (look at the .dat file and copy/ paste node from working unit to yours) and then double check to make sure render controller is same type as unit you copied from. This SHOULD result in a properly displayed texture - even if it is not one which matches your ship. As for doing anything more to create a working texture which matches your ship - someone else will have to help - I'm lost when it comes to creating textures ... but many on here can do it and must be able to help.

01-06-11, 05:32 PM	#7
polyfiller Weps Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 359 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Iowa - in the last screenshot you posted above it still looks to me like some textures are trying to be applied between the rigging from the Uboat conning tower and the flight deck.... as I stated above .... removed the conning tower from the UPCGE or go into the conning tower .dat file and make the whole thing invisible. Also do a quick check for me .... in the main ship.dat file, do you see a node named unified render controller ?