NKorea threatens SKorea with nuclear war

[Castout]

Another day without nuclear war . . . . . .


"WHAT'S THE HOLD UP?"

[Oberon]

Barry needs to get onto Hu, then the US can put their nukes in the ROK, China can put theirs in the DPRK...and we can have a nuclear war by proxy.
The Korean problem is solved, China gets to nuke America, America gets to nuke China, the internet gets lots of mushroom cloud pictures, rolling news gets in depth interviews with charred corpses, everybody wins!

[Castout]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Barry needs to get onto Hu, then the US can put their nukes in the ROK, China can put theirs in the DPRK...and we can have a nuclear war by proxy.
The Korean problem is solved, China gets to nuke America, America gets to nuke China, the internet gets lots of mushroom cloud pictures, rolling news gets in depth interviews with charred corpses, everybody wins!

The Korean problem is solved

Exactly there's no Korean problem if there was no Korea peninsula

[yubba]

Soooo, anybody got a bomb shelter they ain't use-ing.

[Takeda Shingen]

I plan on joining the Brotherood of Steel, so I'm all set. That'll be Paladin Tak to you all.

[ReFaN]

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Such reprisals would just give the Israelis an excuse to clean house across the region. The Arab militaries in the region have advanced in capabilities very little since the 1980s, except for Egypt and Saudi. They have picked up a couple fancy missiles here or there but they have very little to stop the IAF from just bombing them at will.

Based on those Wikileaks cables Saudi wants to see a lot of these terrorist groups in the region gone and Iran dealt with, so they might talk a lot but not do anything.

North Korean's cruise missiles are decades obsolete. Their best indigenous cruise missile is the KN-01, but it just a turbojet powered silkworm with a range of only 100 km. Some PRC missiles they might be armed with (like the HY-2) have a range of 200 km, but those are still just silkworms with better engines. If your a middle east group like Hamas want cruise missiles you got to deal with Iran, which is building copies of Chinese missiles (except for the Ra'ad which is a North Korean type super silkworm).

My friends and I were just discussing this in how Iran's semi-submersibles came from North Korea armed with 324mm torpedoes instead of a light ASM like the C-701. Simply North Korea has no SSMs smaller than a Silkworm (which is huge for a ASM).

North Korea can simply put a small nuclear warhead in a gun round and fire it a far as possible towards the south.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

North Korea can simply put a small nuclear warhead in a gun round and fire it a far as possible towards the south.

No they can't. The bombs North Korea tested are huge. Like the bombs we dropped on Japan. They can't fit in any normal sized gun. They are even too big to put on a rocket. The only way they could deliver them would be by medium bomber like a Il-28 'BEAGLE'.

EDIT: Also the poorly made bomb they got wouldn't do much damage. The 2nd test they made was in the 2 kT range (By design the bomb should have been in the 20 kT range). 2 kT is sufficient to destroy a single hardened target or a moderately sided installation; for example it could mostly destroy the ROKN base at Inchon, a major airbase like at Cheonan, but it is not going to obliterate all of Seoul. Sounds great for a tactical weapon but the bombs they tested were meant to be strategic weapons.

[SgtPotato]

Originally Posted by Oberon

"GET ON WITH IT!"

Oh, Oberon...

You made my day.

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

No they can't. The bombs North Korea tested are huge. Like the bombs we dropped on Japan. They can't fit in any normal sized gun. They are even too big to put on a rocket. The only way they could deliver them would be by medium bomber like a Il-28 'BEAGLE'.

No suitcase nukes yet?
But nuclear Kamikaze attacks are still possible right?

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

No suitcase nukes yet?
But nuclear Kamikaze attacks are still possible right?

(Check my edited post)

Yea no suitcase nukes. They are decades away from anything close to that. What they have is like the bombs we had in the 1940s:

^Yea that big...

About all they could rely on would be a old subsonic Beagle with a huge payload strapped to one wing. Or maybe a small sub like a Sang-O with its entire bow replaced with a nuclear bomb (even then it would need to sail in to the base at Inchon to do anything.) A buddy of mine suggested they could tunnel under Seoul to deliver, that is sufficiently crazy to work.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

I plan on joining the Brotherood of Steel, so I'm all set. That'll be Paladin Tak to you all.

I'm moving to New Reno. That place seems like a pretty swingin' town.

I'll say hi to Myron for you.

[Gerald]

A South Korean official believes the North has been secretly enriching uranium at more locations besides its main nuclear plant, Reuters reports.South Korean Foreign Minister Kim Sung-hwan says he could not confirm a report that Pyongyang had up to four nuclear plants that could enrich uranium, but suspected that North Korea did have more facilities."It is a report based on what is still intelligence and let me just say that we have been following this issue for some time," he said to Reuters.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12...uke-locations/



Note: Published December 14, 2010

[Oberon]

No real surprises there, you don't put all your eggs in one basket after all, and the DPRK is damn good at building stuff underground. Of course, their nukes are about the size of a small house, but I know the Dear Leader won't be satisfied until they can plonk a nuke on top of a Taepodong.

Another use TLAM Strike is a denial of advance. Put nukes in fake houses along the north side of the DMZ, if the US or ROK advances north, set them off.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Oberon

No real surprises there, you don't put all your eggs in one basket after all, and the DPRK is damn good at building stuff underground. Of course, their nukes are about the size of a small house, but I know the Dear Leader won't be satisfied until they can plonk a nuke on top of a Taepodong.

Maybe if they duct taped a couple of Taepodongs together the could deliver one! The bombs they are building weigh about 5,000 kg. The taepodong can lift 1/10 of that.

Another use TLAM Strike is a denial of advance. Put nukes in fake houses along the north side of the DMZ, if the US or ROK advances north, set them off.

Won't work too well. For one the blast area is too small, second US and ROK forces have CBRN gear and armored vehicles to protect them from fallout so unless you are standing within a mile of that bomb you are only going to get badly shaken up, third they need to keep the bombs warm which means any thermal signature in those fake Potemkin villages they got will be the first things to get bombed once we get a hint of them doing that.