Campaign End?

JohnnyMacintosh · 12-11-10, 10:22 PM

What happens if you get full crosses on all the campaigns.. Does history change in any major way? Or does it just sort of flow on like it would have..

I guess what im asking is.. do you actually have any impact on how events turn out on the war based on your exploits?

vanjast · 12-12-10, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyMacintosh

Does history change in any major way?

From what I know... NO, which is essentially an indication that UBI has put very little effort into this game, and to make the game end at 1943, is a cheap marketing shot to get 1 for the price of two - Well we all know how this has turned out.

I think that anybody who is able to program AI decently and allow 'history changes' will have a sim winner, coz at the moment all games are seriously lacking in one or both these areas.

Axeman3d · 12-12-10, 07:11 AM

I think you hit on the main reason why Ubisoft end the game in 1943, along with all that troublesome stuff like type XXI's and so forth. I don't think that the sim should alter world history to suit one sub commander however. Unless you happen to be driving a nuclear sub armed with ICBM's I don't think sinking a few more freighters and escorts is going to save Hitler.

Takeda Shingen · 12-12-10, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Axeman3d

I think you hit on the main reason why Ubisoft end the game in 1943, along with all that troublesome stuff like type XXI's and so forth. I don't think that the sim should alter world history to suit one sub commander however. Unless you happen to be driving a nuclear sub armed with ICBM's I don't think sinking a few more freighters and escorts is going to save Hitler.

Agreed. Unless you are going to sink 9 million GRT by yourself, then there is no way that history is going to be altered. This is a submarine simulation, not an alternate history game.

the_tyrant · 12-12-10, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Agreed. Unless you are going to sink 9 million GRT by yourself, then there is no way that history is going to be altered. This is a submarine simulation, not an alternate history game.

Though in the stock version your mission requirements are in the WTF grade
You must single handedly sink the royal navy
so i guess if you succeed every objective you should change history

vanjast · 12-20-10, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

not an alternate history game.

That's just it...
By taking out this factor, UBI (and others) have destroyed 50% of the RL experience. The subs were out there to make history their way, not to just accept that they were going to lose.

Takeda Shingen · 12-20-10, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vanjast

That's just it...
By taking out this factor, UBI (and others) have destroyed 50% of the RL experience. The subs were out there to make history their way, not to just accept that they were going to lose.

Again, one submarine is not going to change the outcome of the war unless you are going to be sinking 9 million GRT by yourself. Additionally, since there is no way that the player will be able to prevent the destruction of the Luftwaffe, the failed invasion of the USSR and the destruction of the Axis industrial centers, there is no way that you will be able to make history your way. This is a historical sim.

Sepp von Ch. · 01-03-11, 07:37 AM

When actually is the end of the campaign in stock SH5? Someone wrote that he was up to 1944 (sans new Magnum´s mod "Open Horizont"!

When actually the end of the campaign in stock SH5

Where ends also Black Pit in stock SH5?

12-11-10, 10:22 PM	#1
JohnnyMacintosh Watch Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 17 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Campaign End? What happens if you get full crosses on all the campaigns.. Does history change in any major way? Or does it just sort of flow on like it would have.. I guess what im asking is.. do you actually have any impact on how events turn out on the war based on your exploits?

01-03-11, 07:37 AM	#8
Sepp von Ch. Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: In my U-552 and Tiger Posts: 1,732 Downloads: 788 Uploads: 0	When actually is the end of the campaign in stock SH5? Someone wrote that he was up to 1944 (sans new Magnum´s mod "Open Horizont"! When actually the end of the campaign in stock SH5 Where ends also Black Pit in stock SH5? __________________ *U-552* *Tiger* *IDF*

12-12-10, 07:11 AM	#3
Axeman3d Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Central Scotland Posts: 127 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	I think you hit on the main reason why Ubisoft end the game in 1943, along with all that troublesome stuff like type XXI's and so forth. I don't think that the sim should alter world history to suit one sub commander however. Unless you happen to be driving a nuclear sub armed with ICBM's I don't think sinking a few more freighters and escorts is going to save Hitler.