[REL] Environmental MOD for Silent Hunter 5 - Page 81

W_clear · 12-06-10, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACSoft

I just asked to you if your "EnvColors_XXX" files still represent, in your mind, the colors for the region of their names: EnvColors_Tropical.cfg, EnvColors_Temperate_A.cfg, like it is represented here after:

I expected a very simple answer: YES or NO. Not an answer that you never be a sailor, or to look into a file which obviously don't solve the question.

I mean, if you tweak these colors, I suppose you know what you do !!!

In case your answer will be "YES", here is a complementary question:

Thanks in forward for your answers.

ACS

The first is old.Do not control it。
Arrangement is now followed：

HTML Code:

DefaultClimateZone=0
Color00=PolarClimateNorthern
Color40=Polar_AClimateNorthern
Color60=TemperateClimateNorthern
Color80=TropicalClimateNorthern
Color100=Tropical_AClimateNorthern
Color120=TemperateClimateSouthern
Color160=Polar_AClimateSouthern
Color200=PolarClimateSouthern

Northern Hemisphere

HTML Code:

[PolarClimateNorthern]
[PolarClimateNorthern.Season0]  
SeasonName=winter
StartDate=0101
EndDate=0531

[PolarClimateNorthern.Season1]  
SeasonName=spring
StartDate=0601
EndDate=1231

[Polar_AClimateNorthern]
[Polar_AClimateNorthern.Season0]
SeasonName=winter
StartDate=1201
EndDate=0231

[Polar_AClimateNorthern.Season1]
SeasonName=spring
StartDate=0301
EndDate=0531

[Polar_AClimateNorthern.Season2]
SeasonName=summer
StartDate=0601
EndDate=0831

[Polar_AClimateNorthern.Season3]
SeasonName=autumn
StartDate=0901
EndDate=1131

[TemperateClimateNorthern]
[TemperateClimateNorthern.Season0]
SeasonName=winter
StartDate=1201
EndDate=0231

[TemperateClimateNorthern.Season1]
SeasonName=spring
StartDate=0301
EndDate=0531

[TemperateClimateNorthern.Season2]
SeasonName=summer
StartDate=0601
EndDate=0831

[TemperateClimateNorthern.Season3]
SeasonName=autumn
StartDate=0901
EndDate=1131

[TropicalClimateNorthern]
[TemperateClimateNorthern.Season0]
SeasonName=winter
StartDate=1201
EndDate=0231

[TropicalClimateNorthern.Season1]
SeasonName=spring
StartDate=0301
EndDate=0531

[TropicalClimateNorthern.Season2]
SeasonName=summer
StartDate=0601
EndDate=0831

[TropicalClimateNorthern.Season3]
SeasonName=autumn
StartDate=0901
EndDate=1131

[Tropical_AClimateNorthern]
[Tropical_AClimateNorthern.Season0]
SeasonName=winter
StartDate=1201
EndDate=0231

[Tropical_AClimateNorthern.Season1]
SeasonName=spring
StartDate=0301
EndDate=0531

[Tropical_AClimateNorthern.Season2]
SeasonName=summer
StartDate=0601
EndDate=0831

[Tropical_AClimateNorthern.Season3]
SeasonName=autumn
StartDate=0901
EndDate=1131

Southern Hemisphere

HTML Code:

[TemperateClimateSouthern]
[TemperateClimateSouthern.Season0]
SeasonName=winter
StartDate=0601
EndDate=0831

[TemperateClimateSouthern.Season1]
SeasonName=spring
StartDate=0901
EndDate=1131

[TemperateClimateSouthern.Season2]
SeasonName=summer
StartDate=1201
EndDate=0231

[TemperateClimateSouthern.Season3]
SeasonName=autumn
StartDate=0301
EndDate=0531

[Polar_AClimateSouthern]
[Polar_AClimateSouthern.Season0]
SeasonName=winter
StartDate=0601
EndDate=0831

[Polar_AClimateSouthern.Season1]
SeasonName=spring
StartDate=0901
EndDate=1131

[Polar_AClimateSouthern.Season2]
SeasonName=summer
StartDate=1201
EndDate=0231

[Polar_AClimateSouthern.Season3]
SeasonName=autumn
StartDate=0301
EndDate=0531

[PolarClimateSouthern]
[PolarClimateSouthern.Season0]  
SeasonName=autumn
StartDate=0601
EndDate=1231

[PolarClimateSouthern.Season1]  
SeasonName=summer
StartDate=0101
EndDate=0531

Do you understand?

ACSoft · 12-06-10, 09:16 AM

I don't need to understand nothing. Like you, I can read all these datas in these files. What I need, is you, to just answer a single simple question:

In your meaning, does represent YOUR:

EnvColors_Polar.cfg
EnvColors_Polar_A.cfg
EnvColors_Temperate.cfg
EnvColors_Tropical.cfg
EnvColors_Tropical_A.cfg

The colors of the regions on which you set them ?

For example:

Your "EnvColors_Tropical_A.cfg" is affected to map "Color100" and this "Color100" correspond to the region which is the most close to the equator.

Now, if you compare on the picture here over, the colors of "EnvColors_Tropical_A.cfg" and those of "EnvColors_Tropical.cfg" (picture taken with the same SH5 save situation, therefore same location, same date, same meteo), IT IS OBVIOUS that "EnvColors_Tropical_A.cfg" which is supposed to represent a more tropical climate (more close from the equator) have quite cold colors, almost in comparison with the colors of "EnvColors_Tropical.cfg". So, yes, I really don't understand what you are trying to do.

Also, what to say about the distribution of these colors palettes, along the Earth latitudes ?!? See the picture here after:

In the red circle, from North to South, You have "Polar_A" followed by "Polar" at level of England and channel between France & Great Britain !!! Then Temperate followed by Tropical_A, followed by Tropical and then again Tropical_A. !?!?!

No doubt you are a very great artist to build very realistic looking ambiance in SH5, but I don't understand nothing to the way your distribute these colors over the World.

ACS

PL_Andrev · 12-06-10, 11:10 AM

1. I think that the file climatezones.tga was edited few times, and don't know this is W_clear's work. You should read all post at this tread and I'm sure you'll find the answer why climatezones.tga looks like on this picture.

2. Maybe you should use /propose your version of this file. You ask why near England the polar environmant is. I can ask, why these lines between regions are straight? They looks non-real, right?. I found some diffirent versionof climatezones.tga, like on this post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=240

3. Could you use very simple easy english when asking? Our chineese friend does not speak english very good...

ACSoft · 12-06-10, 01:23 PM

Dear Antar, thanks for trying to help !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antar

1. I think that the file climatezones.tga was edited few times, and don't know this is W_clear's work. You should read all post at this tread and I'm sure you'll find the answer why climatezones.tga looks like on this picture.

I have already done that and it took my hours, because of the number of messages. But unfortunately I didn't really got the answers I was seeking for. I read, for example, some discussions about coastal problems and setting of different color for them, but didn't founded a clear explanation of the reasons why it is better this way. If you read my early previous messages in this thread, you will see I asked for this, but didn't received satisfactory answers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antar

2. Maybe you should use /propose your version of this file. You ask why near England the polar environmant is. I can ask, why these lines between regions are straight? They looks non-real, right?. I found some diffirent versionof climatezones.tga, like on this post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=240 .

I have done this already. For example, I founded here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=170162

A work made by a French guy, devoted to W_clear mod. I founded that his climatezones.tga was, to my opinion, the best around, as it respect real world zone distribution, has the trick of different color on coast and even add a suplementary palette Temperate_A.

So I have corrected this nice climatezones.tga map (you know it is my speciality LOL) who had also illegal colors and proposed this work and my collaboration to improve these ClimatZone to W_clear with private messages.

But W_clear refused to go in this direction for reasons who belong to him, like he didn't apparently also took in account the gift made by the French guy. No problem, I respect that. I mean his Mod belong to him, so he decide and do what he want.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antar

3. Could you use very simple easy english when asking? Our chineese friend does not speak english very good...

I try hard to be as simple as I can. This is why I try also to use often pictures.

But English is also not my mother language. So it is also sometimes difficult for me to explain, depending on what you have to explain.

ACS

PL_Andrev · 12-06-10, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACSoft

I have done this already. For example, I founded here:
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=170162

I looked for it, thank you!

ACSoft · 12-06-10, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antar

I looked for it, thank you!

Be aware that the original version of the ClimateZones.tga you will find in this thread of the French guy HAS ILLEGAL COLORS.

As I said, I have a corrected version. If you are interested in it, please write to me in private.

ACS

W_clear · 12-08-10, 09:12 PM

Environmental 4.8 MOD for SH5_1.2
Environmental 4.8 MOD replace all the Environmental MOD
1.Change the foam more white.
2.The new underwater color.

Obelix · 12-08-10, 09:19 PM

W_clear
Thank you. Its nice

stoppro · 12-08-10, 11:17 PM

beautiful!

Shiplord · 12-09-10, 06:49 AM

South of Ireland is still Polar climate zone (color red value = 0), why?

ACSoft · 12-09-10, 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiplord

South of Ireland is still Polar climate zone (color red value = 0), why?

Good question !!!

ACS

Yosarian · 12-09-10, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiplord

South of Ireland is still Polar climate zone (color red value = 0), why?

because this mod is very unrealistic in terms of the global division of world climate zones.

This climatezones.tga made by someone here in the forums (I do not remember who) comes very close to the real distribution of the climate and should perhaps be used in future versions of this mod if the creator of this climatezones.tga agrees.

Pintea · 12-09-10, 10:43 AM

Perhaps he made it so in order to achieve greater environment diversity around the playable zones, while taking a hit on the simulation aspect.

The game is quite limited with respect to the environment colors combination (even though much above previous versions). The colors are much too precisely defined according to climate zone and weather type.

Perhaps each environment should have been defined with a range of colors, or even allowing a small amount of randomness.

PL_Andrev · 12-09-10, 12:56 PM

I tried to build my world map as on your 'vegetation' screen... but I use W_clear's map colors (8 colors).
Why on your screen are 10 colors? When W_clear uses only 8?

Another issue: there should be uneven number of zones:
1. Polar <- color 1
2. Arctic <- color 2
3. Cold-temp <- color 3
4. Warm temp <- color 4
5. Sub-tropical <- color 5
6. Tropical <- color 6
7. Sub-tropical <- color 5
8. Warm temp <- color 4
9. Cold temp <- color 3
10. Arctic <- color 2
11. Polar <- color 1

and there are six colors only... and we have 8-10?

rsvette12 · 12-09-10, 01:43 PM

New underwater can someone post a screenshot of that please, thank you Guys.

Rich

12-06-10, 11:10 AM	#1203
PL_Andrev Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 995 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	1. I think that the file climatezones.tga was edited few times, and don't know this is W_clear's work. You should read all post at this tread and I'm sure you'll find the answer why climatezones.tga looks like on this picture. 2. Maybe you should use /propose your version of this file. You ask why near England the polar environmant is. I can ask, why these lines between regions are straight? They looks non-real, right?. I found some diffirent versionof climatezones.tga, like on this post: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=240 3. Could you use very simple easy english when asking? Our chineese friend does not speak english very good... __________________

12-08-10, 09:19 PM	#1208
Obelix Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 49°44´N 129°40´E Posts: 665 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 7	W_clear Thank you. Its nice __________________ Speed squadron is the speed of the slowest ship ... but only so long as on the trail of the squadron did not sit submarines ...

12-08-10, 11:17 PM	#1209
stoppro Sonar Guy Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: vero beach fl Posts: 380 Downloads: 495 Uploads: 0	beautiful! __________________ win 10 64-msi-32gig cosair ddr4-ryzen9-5600evga gtx3060-corsair850watt-2-ssd 500 gig drives 1m2 1tig

12-09-10, 12:56 PM	#1214
PL_Andrev Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 995 Downloads: 91 Uploads: 0	I tried to build my world map as on your 'vegetation' screen... but I use W_clear's map colors (8 colors). Why on your screen are 10 colors? When W_clear uses only 8? Another issue: there should be uneven number of zones: 1. Polar <- color 1 2. Arctic <- color 2 3. Cold-temp <- color 3 4. Warm temp <- color 4 5. Sub-tropical <- color 5 6. Tropical <- color 6 7. Sub-tropical <- color 5 8. Warm temp <- color 4 9. Cold temp <- color 3 10. Arctic <- color 2 11. Polar <- color 1 and there are six colors only... and we have 8-10? __________________

12-06-10, 09:16 AM	#1202
ACSoft Soundman Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Switzerland Posts: 149 Downloads: 57 Uploads: 0	I don't need to understand nothing. Like you, I can read all these datas in these files. What I need, is you, to just answer a single simple question: In your meaning, does represent YOUR: EnvColors_Polar.cfg EnvColors_Polar_A.cfg EnvColors_Temperate.cfg EnvColors_Tropical.cfg EnvColors_Tropical_A.cfg The colors of the regions on which you set them ? For example: Your "EnvColors_Tropical_A.cfg" is affected to map "Color100" and this "Color100" correspond to the region which is the most close to the equator. Now, if you compare on the picture here over, the colors of "EnvColors_Tropical_A.cfg" and those of "EnvColors_Tropical.cfg" (picture taken with the same SH5 save situation, therefore same location, same date, same meteo), IT IS OBVIOUS that "EnvColors_Tropical_A.cfg" which is supposed to represent a more tropical climate (more close from the equator) have quite cold colors, almost in comparison with the colors of "EnvColors_Tropical.cfg". So, yes, I really don't understand what you are trying to do. Also, what to say about the distribution of these colors palettes, along the Earth latitudes ?!? See the picture here after: In the red circle, from North to South, You have "Polar_A" followed by "Polar" at level of England and channel between France & Great Britain !!! Then Temperate followed by Tropical_A, followed by Tropical and then again Tropical_A. !?!?! No doubt you are a very great artist to build very realistic looking ambiance in SH5, but I don't understand nothing to the way your distribute these colors over the World. ACS

12-08-10, 09:12 PM	#1207
W_clear Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,142 Downloads: 111 Uploads: 0	Environmental 4.8 MOD for SH5_1.2 Environmental 4.8 MOD replace all the Environmental MOD 1.Change the foam more white. 2.The new underwater color.

12-09-10, 06:49 AM	#1210
Shiplord Helmsman Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 109 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	South of Ireland is still Polar climate zone (color red value = 0), why?

12-09-10, 10:43 AM	#1213
Pintea Sparky Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 152 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Perhaps he made it so in order to achieve greater environment diversity around the playable zones, while taking a hit on the simulation aspect. The game is quite limited with respect to the environment colors combination (even though much above previous versions). The colors are much too precisely defined according to climate zone and weather type. Perhaps each environment should have been defined with a range of colors, or even allowing a small amount of randomness.

12-09-10, 01:43 PM	#1215
rsvette12 Lieutenant Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 263 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	New underwater can someone post a screenshot of that please, thank you Guys. Rich