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Old 12-01-10, 06:25 AM   #16
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thank you very much for this model Frog !!

it is very nice but check the ship's reflections on water ....they are displaced .


ps: Arethusa is the original name of model ? if yes....it is surprising to see greek names on english ships.
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Old 12-01-10, 12:58 PM   #17
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Hello makman94:

The British have a long tradition of naming ships according to mythological characters. Examples are those in the Leander, Arethusa and Dido Classes, but there many more. So, because of the rich mytholoy, Greek names are pretty common to Royal Navy ships. Just check the English Wikipedia; try HMS Arethusa ...

"Displaced reflections"? Reflections should show up as in the picture in this thread's first post. If not, can you provide details or a screen?
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Old 12-01-10, 01:13 PM   #18
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ps: Arethusa is the original name of model ? if yes....it is surprising to see greek names on english ships.
Mythical Greek names were very popular with English shipbuilders, going back to the sailing-ship era. Names have included:

Achates
Achilles
Actaeon
Aeneas
Aeolus
Agamemnon
Amphion
Amphitrite
Anacreon
Andromache
Andromeda
Aphrodite
Apollo
Aquilon
Arachne
Arethusa
Argo
Ariadne
Arromanches
Astraea
Atalanta
Athene

And those are just the 'A's!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...the_Royal_Navy
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Old 12-01-10, 10:42 PM   #19
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Mythical Greek names were very popular with English shipbuilders, going back to the sailing-ship era. Names have included:

...
Ariadne
...
Back in the First World War, for a while both Germany and Great Britain had a light cruiser named Ariadne in commission at the same time. It's probably just as well they never met in a battle.
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Old 12-02-10, 12:09 AM   #20
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Back in the First World War, for a while both Germany and Great Britain had a light cruiser named Ariadne in commission at the same time. It's probably just as well they never met in a battle.
Can you imagine the play by play announcer on that one?

Kinda like
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Old 12-02-10, 07:25 AM   #21
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Old 12-02-10, 09:48 AM   #22
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"Displaced reflections"? Reflections should show up as in the picture in this thread's first post. If not, can you provide details or a screen?
here you are Frog ,

the displaced reflections in s3d (also check the 223 node--SHD-NCL-ARETHUSA seems also displaced...but don't know if this is important,better ask the experts):
http://img836.imageshack.us/i/aretousareflect.png/
and the displaced reflections in game:
http://img197.imageshack.us/i/aretousa.png/

ps: thanks to you and SS for the infos about ships's greek names
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Old 12-02-10, 12:47 PM   #23
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Hello makman94:

The British have a long tradition of naming ships according to mythological characters. Examples are those in the Leander, Arethusa and Dido Classes, but there many more. So, because of the rich mytholoy, Greek names are pretty common to Royal Navy ships. Just check the English Wikipedia; try HMS Arethusa ...

"Displaced reflections"? Reflections should show up as in the picture in this thread's first post. If not, can you provide details or a screen?
Hi the_frog,

just set the X-, Y- and Z-values of the "reflect_NCL_Arethusa" to 0,0 and the reflections of the hull will be correct. Ubi made individual reflection objects (less polygon than the main object) and they are sometimes not centered. So they adjusted them by changing the X-, Y- and Z-values of this objekt. Stupid method, but Ubisoft often did so.

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Old 12-02-10, 02:05 PM   #24
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@makman94:

Thanks! You have an eye for details!

By the way, the error roots back to the original SH3 Dido model, which contains numerous "misplaced" shaddow and reflection models (see rowi58's comment). It has not been addressed before so far. So, GWX, LSH, WAC use Didos with the reflection not centred.

@rowi58:

Thanks, too. Done as suggested. Reflection / shaddow models now all at 0,0,0 positions and without rotation.
In addition, reflections of gun mounts corrected; frustum test was not enabled.

... new version of the model uploaded ...
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Old 12-03-10, 10:18 AM   #25
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Great work the_frog, installing her now. Also got the Walrus seaplane by Testpilot1978 to go with it. If anyone wants it you can find it at http://www.filefront.com/17187647/Walrus-by-TP.7z/ Many thanks, Sven.
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Old 12-03-10, 05:12 PM   #26
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Long awaited modification andmuch more accurate than recent Leander class. For my liking models of light cruisers would be much more accurate if were converted correspondenly from HMS Dido -> HMS Arethusa - > HMS Perth and only then to HMS Leander. Really hope and looking forward for HMAS Perth next!
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Old 12-04-10, 08:04 PM   #27
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Hunter, I do my very best.

By the way, not so long ago, Herr Hunter suggested the Dido -> Arethusa -> Perth pathway in the German Ubiforum ... I simply followed the idea ...
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Old 12-05-10, 05:24 AM   #28
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Actually, Herr Hunter at German forums is me and the idia is taken from real life were all thoses series of British CL grew from each other.
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Old 12-05-10, 10:15 AM   #29
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Hunter, I already guessed on your 2nd identity

Yes, the British shipbuilders had a nice sense for evolution ...

And now, we are doing kind of reverse evolution -- which is fun
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