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Dowly · 12-02-10, 08:48 PM

Hmm... did some digging (yeh, should've done before asking I know I know

) and atleast in 2.5, the main races would attack the SF fab if it was in their sector. Including Teladi.

Guess I go with Space Weed Fab for now.

Drewcifer · 12-02-10, 08:51 PM

Haha, Bliss Place, and Dream Farms... gotta love 'em

CaptainHaplo · 12-02-10, 10:23 PM

Space Fuel has to go in Pirate or unclaimed sectors. Space Weed can go in Teladi space.

As for M6 class ships... pfft - I still love my Springblossom. Yea as you get deep in the game she lacks punch against anything larger than an M7, but between her speed, decent shielding, Starbursts in turrets for flak and 6 or 8 EM/AMs up front.... she is a dogfighters dream.

With the speed of a M5, firepower of an M6 and the maneuverability of a M3 - she is pure gold.

I strongly suggest that you look into the Marauders shipyard too....

At least until XTC is out that is

Drewcifer · 12-02-10, 11:38 PM

Dogfighting is fun, and I love to get my hands dirty, but I also don't mind when people just die while I drive around looking for a place to park my Shrike, its a tank. Honestly sometimes the turrets just kill Xenon or Pirates without me even putting down my property screen.

Arclight · 12-03-10, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

I strongly suggest that you look into the Marauders shipyard too....

Marauder's shipyard?

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

At least until XTC is out that is

Put out or get out, you tease!

CaptainHaplo · 12-03-10, 07:15 AM

Marauder shipyard may be found here:
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=223132

As for teasing... yes. Yes I am LOL. I can say it will be here "SOONtm".

The marauder allows you to overtune your ship - for a cost in both spaceweed and credits.

Dowly · 12-03-10, 07:24 AM

Haplo, can you say if XTC adds common commodities to trade? Like water, contruction materials, luxuries etc. What about planetary trade?

Those 2 things are my gripes about X3, needs more goods to trade.

EDIT: NOOOOOOOO, I seem to have lost my Wheat CAG, he was the first CAG I had.

CaptainHaplo · 12-03-10, 11:05 AM

Dowly, I again cannot give specifics - but I can tell you there are additions to the trade system, both in things that can be traded and factories you can own. I can tell you there is no planet trading at this point - some sectors have multiple planets remember. Doing planetary trade is something that I believe is beyond the engine ability unless someone figures a way the limits.

Also, its been made officially known on another public forum, so I can now state it here:

XTC is no longer beta - it is in Release Candidate stage. This shows I am not kidding when I say "SOONtm". Also - if your interested in seeing a bit more of XTC - check here:

Enjoy!

Arclight · 12-03-10, 12:40 PM

Now that we're on about X3 anyway... why is it the community is opposed to multiplayer? I mean, I gathered as much reading over time, but the reasoning eludes me.

Doesn't have to be MMO, actually preferred not. But small scale, 16-32 players or something. Apart from a way to ally players, create guilds/corporations, nothing would have to be changed.

Spike88 · 12-03-10, 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Haplo, can you say if XTC adds common commodities to trade? Like water, contruction materials, luxuries etc. What about planetary trade?

Those 2 things are my gripes about X3, needs more goods to trade.

EDIT: NOOOOOOOO, I seem to have lost my Wheat CAG, he was the first CAG I had.

You can trade water in Terran territory.

Arclight · 12-03-10, 01:20 PM

Well yeah, but it's not about water. Everything now falls into energy > bio&minerals > food > tech. Would be nice to have more varying goods. Maybe hauling engine parts, or scrap metal.

Always thought planetary trade could be handled as in the Terran sectors: orbital docks that recieve goods from the planets. All you need is a station/dock per planet, with a selection of goods apropriate for that planet. The thing would just function as a factory operating without resources.

Dowly · 12-03-10, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spike88

You can trade water in Terran territory.

Aye, but I'm talking about stuff that are there for just to trade. Like the Babylon 5 mod for example, there's even Swedish meatballs to trade.

X3's goods are only the stuff that is necessary for fabs to works.

Dowly · 12-03-10, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Doing planetary trade is something that I believe is beyond the engine ability unless someone figures a way the limits.Enjoy!

B5 mod has planetary trade, didn't try it for long enough to test it. But here's a way: Make a new station, call it planet X customs or something and thru there the trade with planet(s) on that sector would be made.

Frankly, I don't know much about the modding of X3, if that is even possible, but basicly it would be just another station.

CaptainHaplo · 12-03-10, 06:34 PM

Dowly - ok I misunderstood you. I thought by planetary trade you would do land on the planet....

Also - regarding more trade items - no there are not "useless" trade items - just things you pick up and move - everything you can trade has a visible usage in the universe.

Arclight - the reason most are opposed to multi with X3 is because to do it right is impossible. If its not an MMO, there is no ability for lets say you, me and dowly all to have a universe in synch. Sure, you could do "short missions" where you teamed up, but the idea of X3 is that it truly is a time sink - hours and hours, day after day, while the universe moves. The only way to have that universe stay consistent is to have it remote somewhere, and thus, it becomes an MMO.

I guess it would be possible to have "saves" handle the universe in small group plays - but then who holds the data, what if one 5 people are playing and then one has to leave. So many issues for what really is a niche market to start, and a huge development risk on top.

The next "space" sim by egosoft will not be an X game I don't think - so who knows what they will do then.

TteFAboB · 12-03-10, 09:08 PM

X3-Terran Conflict going for $9.99 on impulse for the weekend:
http://www.impulsedriven.com/x3tc

This is very, very tempting at this price...

Must... resist... assimilation...

12-02-10, 10:23 PM	#93
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Space Fuel has to go in Pirate or unclaimed sectors. Space Weed can go in Teladi space. As for M6 class ships... pfft - I still love my Springblossom. Yea as you get deep in the game she lacks punch against anything larger than an M7, but between her speed, decent shielding, Starbursts in turrets for flak and 6 or 8 EM/AMs up front.... she is a dogfighters dream. With the speed of a M5, firepower of an M6 and the maneuverability of a M3 - she is pure gold. I strongly suggest that you look into the Marauders shipyard too.... At least until XTC is out that is __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

12-03-10, 07:15 AM	#96
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Marauder shipyard may be found here: http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=223132 As for teasing... yes. Yes I am LOL. I can say it will be here "SOONtm". The marauder allows you to overtune your ship - for a cost in both spaceweed and credits. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

12-03-10, 07:24 AM	#97
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,055 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Haplo, can you say if XTC adds common commodities to trade? Like water, contruction materials, luxuries etc. What about planetary trade? Those 2 things are my gripes about X3, needs more goods to trade. EDIT: NOOOOOOOO, I seem to have lost my Wheat CAG, he was the first CAG I had. Last edited by Dowly; 12-03-10 at 07:37 AM.

12-03-10, 11:05 AM	#98
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Dowly, I again cannot give specifics - but I can tell you there are additions to the trade system, both in things that can be traded and factories you can own. I can tell you there is no planet trading at this point - some sectors have multiple planets remember. Doing planetary trade is something that I believe is beyond the engine ability unless someone figures a way the limits. Also, its been made officially known on another public forum, so I can now state it here: XTC is no longer beta - it is in Release Candidate stage. This shows I am not kidding when I say "SOONtm". Also - if your interested in seeing a bit more of XTC - check here: Enjoy! __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

12-03-10, 12:40 PM	#99
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Now that we're on about X3 anyway... why is it the community is opposed to multiplayer? I mean, I gathered as much reading over time, but the reasoning eludes me. Doesn't have to be MMO, actually preferred not. But small scale, 16-32 players or something. Apart from a way to ally players, create guilds/corporations, nothing would have to be changed. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

12-02-10, 08:48 PM	#91
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,055 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Hmm... did some digging (yeh, should've done before asking I know I know ) and atleast in 2.5, the main races would attack the SF fab if it was in their sector. Including Teladi. Guess I go with Space Weed Fab for now.

12-02-10, 08:51 PM	#92
Drewcifer Commodore Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 601 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Haha, Bliss Place, and Dream Farms... gotta love 'em

12-02-10, 11:38 PM	#94
Drewcifer Commodore Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Michigan, USA Posts: 601 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Dogfighting is fun, and I love to get my hands dirty, but I also don't mind when people just die while I drive around looking for a place to park my Shrike, its a tank. Honestly sometimes the turrets just kill Xenon or Pirates without me even putting down my property screen.

12-03-10, 01:20 PM	#101
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Well yeah, but it's not about water. Everything now falls into energy > bio&minerals > food > tech. Would be nice to have more varying goods. Maybe hauling engine parts, or scrap metal. Always thought planetary trade could be handled as in the Terran sectors: orbital docks that recieve goods from the planets. All you need is a station/dock per planet, with a selection of goods apropriate for that planet. The thing would just function as a factory operating without resources. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

12-03-10, 06:34 PM	#104
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,404 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Dowly - ok I misunderstood you. I thought by planetary trade you would do land on the planet.... Also - regarding more trade items - no there are not "useless" trade items - just things you pick up and move - everything you can trade has a visible usage in the universe. Arclight - the reason most are opposed to multi with X3 is because to do it right is impossible. If its not an MMO, there is no ability for lets say you, me and dowly all to have a universe in synch. Sure, you could do "short missions" where you teamed up, but the idea of X3 is that it truly is a time sink - hours and hours, day after day, while the universe moves. The only way to have that universe stay consistent is to have it remote somewhere, and thus, it becomes an MMO. I guess it would be possible to have "saves" handle the universe in small group plays - but then who holds the data, what if one 5 people are playing and then one has to leave. So many issues for what really is a niche market to start, and a huge development risk on top. The next "space" sim by egosoft will not be an X game I don't think - so who knows what they will do then. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

12-03-10, 09:08 PM	#105
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	X3-Terran Conflict going for $9.99 on impulse for the weekend: http://www.impulsedriven.com/x3tc This is very, very tempting at this price... Must... resist... assimilation... __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand