The Dems still don't get it...

[Armistead]

We should close down about 100 left over cold war bases in Europe and place them on the border.

We have about 3,500 border patrol agents for our entire southern border, New York alone has over 35,000 cops, that should tell you something.

Don't blame the Dems only, the GOP under Reagan and both Bushes did nothing but promote it. There was a time the GOP loved the cheap labor.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Armistead

We should close down about 100 left over cold war bases in Europe and place them on the border.

We have about 3,500 border patrol agents for our entire southern border, New York alone has over 35,000 cops, that should tell you something.

Don't blame the Dems only, the GOP under Reagan and both Bushes did nothing but promote it. There was a time the GOP loved the cheap labor.

GOP shares blame also BUT the Dems have been in control of Congress since 2007 and the Presidency for two years, they have failed to secure border or do anything meaningful because they have no will to protect the border.With some great people like Rand Paul etc headed to Congress, perhaps we will see some action on the issue.

[Armistead]

I agree. If a Dem congressperson could, they would stand on the border with a welcom basket of welfare, foodstamps, a DL , and of course a Dem voter reg. card.

I drove through a small town in NC I once lived in a month ago, more rural farm and I swore I was in Mexico, hardly one sign on the entire strip was in english.

They say no one would do these jobs, I wonder who did them before they came. Hell, I picked tobacco as a teen for $10 a day.

Has our population decreased that much in my lifetime

Still, it pesses me off that I do several bids a week in the richest hood in town full of white GOP members that complain about illegals, then they use them over me because they can do the job 30% cheaper cuz they pay no insurance, fees, taxes, ect....

My guess is once these new members get in they'll soon fall prey to special interest like they always have.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Armistead

I agree. If a Dem congressperson could, they would stand on the border with a welcom basket of welfare, foodstamps, a DL , and of course a Dem voter reg. card.

I drove through a small town in NC I once lived in a month ago, more rural farm and I swore I was in Mexico, hardly one sign on the entire strip was in english.

They say no one would do these jobs, I wonder who did them before they came. Hell, I picked tobacco as a teen for $10 a day.

Has our population decreased that much in my lifetime

Still, it pesses me off that I do several bids a week in the richest hood in town full of white GOP members that complain about illegals, then they use them over me because they can do the job 30% cheaper cuz they pay no insurance, fees, taxes, ect....

My guess is once these new members get in they'll soon fall prey to special interest like they always have.

I understand BUT if we secured the border and made the penalty for being here illegaly harsh(immediate deportation) as well as cracking down on those who hire, they wouldnt be there to do those jobs.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I understand BUT if we secured the border and made the penalty for being here illegaly harsh(immediate deportation) as well as cracking down on those who hire, they wouldnt be there to do those jobs.

true, but ain't gonna happen.

They say the real numbers are around 30 million illegals here. We would never really know until we give em amnesty.

And this reform they talk about...the word amnesty shouldn't be mentioned. Until not one mexican can cross the border it shoudn't even be talked about.

I saw one illegal girl crying over how she came here and worked hard, going to medical school and won't be able to get a job as a Doctor because she has no SSN. Go to Mexico and use the free education there.