A bit of a mystery

razark · 11-09-10, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Wouldent an event like this set NORAD on point?

How often does NORAD put out press releases?

I've seen a few reports that it was a contrail from an aircraft filmed from an odd angle.

11-09-10, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by razark

I've seen a few reports that it was a contrail from an aircraft filmed from an odd angle.

I've looked @ the vid a few more times than often and it appears the city is down and the missile is up. It was photoged from a news chopper. How odd an angle could account for this?

11-09-10, 02:56 PM

NORAD would most certainly have detected the launch via satellite during the boost phase, which this appears to be. That there is no official word I'd say NORAD knew of it beforehand and .............. I don't know.

Molon Labe · 11-09-10, 03:01 PM

"When someone makes an unannounced launch what looks to be a ballistic missile 35 miles from the nations second largest city (at sea in international waters), and 18 hours later NORAD still doesn't have any answers at all - that complete lack of information represents a credible threat to national security. If NORAD can't answer the first and last question, then I believe it is time to question every single penny of ballistic missile defense funding in the defense budget. NORTHCOM needs to start talking about what they do know, rather than leaving the focus on what they don't know."
--Galrahn, Information Dissemination.net

11-09-10, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Molon Labe

"When someone makes an unannounced launch what looks to be a ballistic missile 35 miles from the nations second largest city (at sea in international waters), and 18 hours later NORAD still doesn't have any answers at all - that complete lack of information represents a credible threat to national security. If NORAD can't answer the first and last question, then I believe it is time to question every single penny of ballistic missile defense funding in the defense budget. NORTHCOM needs to start talking about what they do know, rather than leaving the focus on what they don't know."
--Galrahn, Information Dissemination.net

Agreed. Think if it were a missile aimed 180° from where it was. Houston would be gone. And worse.

Oberon · 11-09-10, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Molon Labe

"When someone makes an unannounced launch what looks to be a ballistic missile 35 miles from the nations second largest city (at sea in international waters), and 18 hours later NORAD still doesn't have any answers at all - that complete lack of information represents a credible threat to national security. If NORAD can't answer the first and last question, then I believe it is time to question every single penny of ballistic missile defense funding in the defense budget. NORTHCOM needs to start talking about what they do know, rather than leaving the focus on what they don't know."
--Galrahn, Information Dissemination.net

I was just about to post that.

Very true. I mean, if the answer is classified, fair enough, just say that they have an answer, they know who launched it, it's not a threat to national security but unfortunately it is classified. Not a simple 'hell if I know'!

11-09-10, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

I was just about to post that.

Very true. I mean, if the answer is classified, fair enough, just say that they have an answer, they know who launched it, it's not a threat to national security but unfortunately it is classified. Not a simple 'hell if I know'!

WikiLeaks will post it soon enough.

Oberon · 11-09-10, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man

WikiLeaks will post it soon enough.

NORTHCOM is: “unable to provide specific details… [but] can confirm that there is no threat to our nation, and from all indications this was not a launch by a foreign military.”

So, it's highly likely an internal launch or quite possibly a contrail.

Like this one.

If it's an internal launch then either someone has not sent a memo to someone else because a NOTAM was not issued until after the event, or someone pressed the wrong button and it was an accidental launch, in which case the reports of the US not having a kill option on their nukes after launch is bogus because nowhere as gone up in a giant fireball yet.

Fish · 11-10-10, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man

WikiLeaks will post it soon enough.

It was a North Korean provocation.

SteamWake · 11-09-10, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Third Man

I've looked @ the vid a few more times than often and it appears the city is down and the missile is up. It was photoged from a news chopper. How odd an angle could account for this?

Its swamp gas

11-09-10, 03:01 PM	#4
Molon Labe Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Along the Watchtower Posts: 3,810 Downloads: 27 Uploads: 5	"When someone makes an unannounced launch what looks to be a ballistic missile 35 miles from the nations second largest city (at sea in international waters), and 18 hours later NORAD still doesn't have any answers at all - that complete lack of information represents a credible threat to national security. If NORAD can't answer the first and last question, then I believe it is time to question every single penny of ballistic missile defense funding in the defense budget. NORTHCOM needs to start talking about what they do know, rather than leaving the focus on what they don't know." --Galrahn, Information Dissemination.net __________________

11-09-10, 02:56 PM	#3
The Third Man Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	NORAD would most certainly have detected the launch via satellite during the boost phase, which this appears to be. That there is no official word I'd say NORAD knew of it beforehand and .............. I don't know.