[WIP] The Modern Subs Project - Page 19

11-05-10, 06:30 AM

Some screenshots of the CWSS menu artwork:

keltos01 · 11-05-10, 06:40 AM

next the campaign ???

11-05-10, 07:10 AM

yap

Marka Ragnos · 11-05-10, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhapprich

you mean the Oscar? well, i can make a download available within the next days, but that`l be a german campaign standalone.

That would be great!!! Thanks alot

11-05-10, 07:38 PM

Nautilus under attack by MIG 21`s

Sledgehammer427 · 11-05-10, 11:04 PM

I need a new change of pants

keltos01 · 11-06-10, 04:50 AM

AMAZING !!!!!!

great work there !!!!

keltos

Sledgehammer427 · 11-08-10, 01:03 AM

I'm really curious about this campaign.
I'm going to venture a guess that it will be a "hot" cold war?
since there's no ability to sneak around and collect intel on enemy submarines, I take it we will do a lot of inserting agents and taking pictures of russian ships in port?
basically just changing the japanese/germans to the russians and saying "have at" ?

CCIP · 11-08-10, 01:38 AM

I think this is really some fantastic modeling work, and it's gonna look great. Gameplay-wise though, I just really feel that the SH4 engine is going to make this a rather strange and awkward experience, especially when you consider that for instance even the Type XXI/XXIII in OM can't work correctly due to the snorkel ventilation and high battery capacity simply not working.

Seeing a nuclear sub getting bombed by Migs, while a great visual, I can't help but think something like this...

...as an approximation of the SHIV engine representing cold-war era combat. It's really too bad SH4's engine has nothing to account for the sonar operations and modern ASW (including sub-to-sub combat) of the era. Cause it's certainly got a lot going for it with graphics, crew management, dynamic campaign, etc.

11-08-10, 06:11 AM

well well well....

first of all, yes it`l be a "hot" cold war and the soviets will replace the german side. second, the nautilus being bombed by migs happend when i was surfaced with my radars switched off.due to the size of the sub and the speed of the planes, they found me still surfaced at arrival.it was the first test, too.i`ve now added ungiuded rockets and got a little more than just a bloody nose. modern asw doesn`t seem to be so tricky, just change the weapons configurations. remember, the enemy ships are also new, they´re faster, carry new weapons, detect you sooner and kill you at one single shot in the worst case. considering the large numbers of photographs of both soviet and us submarines taken by opponent airplanes, i don`t think thats fictional. ps sub to sub combat works not too bad by now. there are still some reserves in the game engine.

ETR3(SS) · 11-08-10, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

Thanks James!

In the epic battle that pits me against my CTD issue, I've made progress! Now it will CTD after 2 missions instead of just after 1.

So I'm going to make available the Permit class beta to get some feedback as to other users issues if any. It is not campaign ready so you'll have to play Single Missions and Patrols to test it.

My theory as to my CTD issue is that I may have a setting on my PC or for the game itself that may be causing it. So if you download please get back to me here with your PC's specs and your game settings along with all mods you are running in conjunction with it. I would prefer that you don't run any other mods with it so as to narrow the field.

http://www.filefront.com/17344706/SSN-594-Permit.7z/

So far I've gotten 30 downloads of this and one response as to any problems. So I'm going to assume that the other 29 of you had no problems and the Permit will remain unchanged, unless you have something to add.

Marka Ragnos · 11-08-10, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

So far I've gotten 30 downloads of this and one response as to any problems. So I'm going to assume that the other 29 of you had no problems and the Permit will remain unchanged, unless you have something to add.

Hi ETR3(SS) i have not noticed that sub was available for download, so i decided to start it's sea trials today

The sub model looks and feels great!

I would add the MK-48 torpedo's when i start the battle of midway i have the mk-27 torpedo's available. The sub go's faster then that torpedo. But i can change it myself no worries.

Also what i've noticed when i give the order for periscope depth the periscope does not reach the surface i have to manually change the depth so i can have a clear visual.
Oh and while you allready know Silent hunter 4 stop's responding when i exit the game. Not really a problem but i thought i should mention it.
These are small things, but hey you asked

And once again thanks to all the modders out there who continue to make silent hunter 4 enjoyable... the best 50 bucks i have ever spend.

ETR3(SS) · 11-08-10, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marka Ragnos

Hi ETR3(SS) i have not noticed that sub was available for download, so i decided to start it's sea trials today

The sub model looks and feels great!

I would add the MK-48 torpedo's when i start the battle of midway i have the mk-27 torpedo's available. The sub go's faster then that torpedo. But i can change it myself no worries.

Also what i've noticed when i give the order for periscope depth the periscope does not reach the surface i have to manually change the depth so i can have a clear visual.
Oh and while you allready know Silent hunter 4 stop's responding when i exit the game. Not really a problem but i thought i should mention it.
These are small things, but hey you asked

And once again thanks to all the modders out there who continue to make silent hunter 4 enjoyable... the best 50 bucks i have ever spend.

Thank you for your feedback Marka. I'm aware of the torpedo and periscope issues already. My focus is more on the CTD. Did you experience any while doing multiple missions (one after another)? This is the problem I'm trying to sort out at the moment as it can really take a way from the experience.

CCIP · 11-08-10, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhapprich

well well well....

first of all, yes it`l be a "hot" cold war and the soviets will replace the german side. second, the nautilus being bombed by migs happend when i was surfaced with my radars switched off.due to the size of the sub and the speed of the planes, they found me still surfaced at arrival.it was the first test, too.i`ve now added ungiuded rockets and got a little more than just a bloody nose. modern asw doesn`t seem to be so tricky, just change the weapons configurations. remember, the enemy ships are also new, they´re faster, carry new weapons, detect you sooner and kill you at one single shot in the worst case. considering the large numbers of photographs of both soviet and us submarines taken by opponent airplanes, i don`t think thats fictional. ps sub to sub combat works not too bad by now. there are still some reserves in the game engine.

Well, then I'll wait patiently

I for one would kill to have a good alternate history campaign in all of this - so we'll see how it develops. I'm not a stickler for systems modeling, so if we can get a semblance of the right tactics and operations, I'm all up for it!

polyfiller · 11-10-10, 10:04 AM

jhapprich - great work ..... I'm just putting my TSWSM hat back on after a long break and wondered if we could compare "notes" on AI toprdeo firing. In the TSWSM we also benefitted from Darkfish's megga torpedo spawning ... and I did a whole lot of testing and adjustments on accuracy etc.....

Results were never really ideal, but useable (just). How happy are you with the accuracy of the AI torpedo firing you have ? If good, can you share settings for ammo speed etc. ? If not happy, then I may be able to help (a little).

My last testing got to the point where a AI sub could take down a battelship at around 500 metres, pretty much regardless of AOA and target speed. Key issue I was unable to resolve though was AI subs engaging well beyond an effective range and therefore using all their ammo before getting in range. I had considered much larger ammo capacity - but I have to use a very high ROF to compensate for accuracy issues (accuracy on a per eel basis was less than 15% when tested across a wide range of AOA).

11-05-10, 06:30 AM	#271
jhapprich Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Some screenshots of the CWSS menu artwork: Last edited by jhapprich; 11-05-10 at 07:07 AM.

11-05-10, 06:40 AM	#272
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	next the campaign ??? __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

11-05-10, 11:04 PM	#276
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	I need a new change of pants __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

11-06-10, 04:50 AM	#277
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	AMAZING !!!!!! great work there !!!! keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

11-08-10, 01:03 AM	#278
Sledgehammer427 PacWagon Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Drinking coffee and staring at trees in Massachusetts Posts: 2,908 Downloads: 287 Uploads: 0	I'm really curious about this campaign. I'm going to venture a guess that it will be a "hot" cold war? since there's no ability to sneak around and collect intel on enemy submarines, I take it we will do a lot of inserting agents and taking pictures of russian ships in port? basically just changing the japanese/germans to the russians and saying "have at" ? __________________ Cold Waters Voice Crew - Fire Control Officer Cmdr O. Myers - C/O USS Nautilus (SS-168) 114,000 tons sunk - 4 Spec Ops completed V-boat Nutcase - Need supplies? Japanese garrison on a small island in the way? Just give us a call! D4C!

11-05-10, 07:10 AM	#273
jhapprich Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	yap

11-05-10, 07:38 PM	#275
jhapprich Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Nautilus under attack by MIG 21`s

11-08-10, 01:38 AM	#279
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I think this is really some fantastic modeling work, and it's gonna look great. Gameplay-wise though, I just really feel that the SH4 engine is going to make this a rather strange and awkward experience, especially when you consider that for instance even the Type XXI/XXIII in OM can't work correctly due to the snorkel ventilation and high battery capacity simply not working. Seeing a nuclear sub getting bombed by Migs, while a great visual, I can't help but think something like this... ...as an approximation of the SHIV engine representing cold-war era combat. It's really too bad SH4's engine has nothing to account for the sonar operations and modern ASW (including sub-to-sub combat) of the era. Cause it's certainly got a lot going for it with graphics, crew management, dynamic campaign, etc. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

11-08-10, 06:11 AM	#280
jhapprich Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	well well well.... first of all, yes it`l be a "hot" cold war and the soviets will replace the german side. second, the nautilus being bombed by migs happend when i was surfaced with my radars switched off.due to the size of the sub and the speed of the planes, they found me still surfaced at arrival.it was the first test, too.i`ve now added ungiuded rockets and got a little more than just a bloody nose. modern asw doesn`t seem to be so tricky, just change the weapons configurations. remember, the enemy ships are also new, they´re faster, carry new weapons, detect you sooner and kill you at one single shot in the worst case. considering the large numbers of photographs of both soviet and us submarines taken by opponent airplanes, i don`t think thats fictional. ps sub to sub combat works not too bad by now. there are still some reserves in the game engine.

11-10-10, 10:04 AM	#285
polyfiller Weps Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 359 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	jhapprich - great work ..... I'm just putting my TSWSM hat back on after a long break and wondered if we could compare "notes" on AI toprdeo firing. In the TSWSM we also benefitted from Darkfish's megga torpedo spawning ... and I did a whole lot of testing and adjustments on accuracy etc..... Results were never really ideal, but useable (just). How happy are you with the accuracy of the AI torpedo firing you have ? If good, can you share settings for ammo speed etc. ? If not happy, then I may be able to help (a little). My last testing got to the point where a AI sub could take down a battelship at around 500 metres, pretty much regardless of AOA and target speed. Key issue I was unable to resolve though was AI subs engaging well beyond an effective range and therefore using all their ammo before getting in range. I had considered much larger ammo capacity - but I have to use a very high ROF to compensate for accuracy issues (accuracy on a per eel basis was less than 15% when tested across a wide range of AOA).