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Old 11-04-10, 05:28 PM   #1
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Old 11-04-10, 06:31 PM   #2
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Even if you work and live within your means, how can you afford not to have health insurance? I have insurance, but if I didn't, I would be very hard put to pay the $60,000.00 it cost to have my wifes broken ankle repaired. $7,300.00 for the ER visit and $56,000.00 for the surgery.
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Old 11-04-10, 06:46 PM   #3
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Even if you work and live within your means, how can you afford not to have health insurance? I have insurance, but if I didn't, I would be very hard put to pay the $60,000.00 it cost to have my wifes broken ankle repaired. $7,300.00 for the ER visit and $56,000.00 for the surgery.
That the actual amount paid, or a billed amount? What gets billed, and what the contract is for actual payment can be very different.

My wife at first comped a surgery, and they got reamed for several thousand bucks anyway, then had to charge for the surgery, because the insurance would not pay with no surgeon fee. Her fee was a couple hundred bucks, the total cost was closer to 15 grand.

One huge problem is the disconnect between paying and getting service. The patient and the doc—neither have a clue how much it costs. There is no feedback at all.
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Old 11-04-10, 06:52 PM   #4
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A few years ago, The Frau had to get some surgery that was not covered by insurance. Once the doctor understood that we were paying cash, the "cost" of the operation dropped significantly.. as in less than half.
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Old 11-04-10, 07:14 PM   #5
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A few years ago, The Frau had to get some surgery that was not covered by insurance. Once the doctor understood that we were paying cash, the "cost" of the operation dropped significantly.. as in less than half.
It's like that because if the posted rate was lower, then some health plan might demand a discount on THAT rate. Usually the amount collected from insurance is a fraction of the billed amount.

Imagine if the plumber could send you a bill, and you could send them 50% and they'd say "thank you, come again!" instead of sending you to collections.

BTW, you can always make arrangements to pay, then pay SOMETHING every month. Even $5 and my wife's office would never send you to collections. He biggest few stiffs on payment have all had one thing in common...

all were lawyers. %$#@%$# deadbeats. The lawyer jokes can start any time.
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