Justice? 40 year sentance for Omar Khadr!!... maybe not

[the_tyrant]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Didn't see anything about killing wounded soldier.

He has spent seven years in the Guantanamo Bay detention camps accused of war crimes and providing support to terrorism after throwing a grenade that fatally wounded a US soldier

from my best friend wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khadr

Edit: sorry, my mistake
I read it as "a grenade on fatally wounded a US soldier"

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by tater

That is weak, sorry.

The CIA drone pilot is not on the battlefield. The purpose of uniforms and rank, etc, is to distinguish combatants from noncombatants to minimize harm to the latter. The DRONE, OTOH, was certainly wearing a "uniform" that positively IDed it as an asset of the US, clearly distinguishing it from, say, an airliner. The DRONE is the combatant. Claiming the operator needed a uniform is like claiming that an infantryman's BRAIN should wear a uniform inside his skull.

What is on the BATTLEFIELD is what matters. being out of uniform in Virginia, has exactly zero bearing on the rules of war, and their purpose.

perhaps...but the U.S. government's lawyers were worried enough that they rewrote the law, ...sorry "rules", just before the trial, ...sorry "hearing", to make sure the charge would only apply to that particular defendant.

I am usually a defender of U.S. actions and motives, but the "trials" at Guantanamo are as fair as what you would expect from a political trial in Russia. I hope the damage to the reputation of the U.S. around the world was worth it just to convict this kid.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by the_tyrant

from my best friend wikipedia:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khadr

Edit: sorry, my mistake
I read it as "a grenade on fatally wounded a US soldier"

No worries, mistakes happen, just making sure I didn't miss something.

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I hope the damage to the reputation of the U.S. around the world was worth it just to convict this kid.

No one won't even remember this a month, two later.

[krashkart]

Khadr will. He'll remember every wrong that was done to him, everything that was denied him that he should have had to save his eyesight, everything that was done during interrogation to aggravate the pain of his injuries. If he didn't already hate the West, he has plenty of reason now.

[tater]

Call them POWs, and keep them until AQ unconditionally surrenders to us. THEN try any that are actually "war criminals."

Until AQ formally surrenders, they stay locked up.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

What acts of terror had that kid perpetrated?

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

What acts of terror had that kid perpetrated?

This scum threw a grenade and killed a US soldier, he is a terrorist or insurgent, whatever you want to call him.One word describes him best...ENEMY.They should've just took him out on the battlefield.Not a kid or child soldier, this trash was 15 and knew better but chose to do so.So while a good man fighting against garbage like this "kid" is dead, the murderer gets off easy with 8 years and most of that in Canada where he will no doubt be treated well and released one day.I would bet $1,000 that he will return to the fight and we will hear about him being killed or capture again someday.Muslim terrorists/insurgents etc are like sex offenders, no hope for rehabilitation, just can not fix anything that screwed up.

There ARE good and bad people in this world, you are incorrect.Who said I find life a problem? Life has worked out well for me thus far.I just hate the "soft: view some people have taken towards some terrorists/insurgents etc.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I just hate the "soft: view some people have taken towards some terrorists/insurgents etc.

So the alternative is to dehumanize them? Good going, I see that fight for democracy and human rights is going as planned...

[razark]

He's in one of two categories. He's either a soldier, or he's a criminal. If he's a soldier, and he's been captured, you hold him as a prisoner of war. If he's a criminal, you give him a trial.

Decide which one he is, and follow through. There's rules in place for handling POWs, and there are rules in place for handling criminals. Determine which he is and treat him accordingly.

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by razark

He's in one of two categories.

And therein perhaps lies the problem. The fact is that a lot about this war is in grey areas, whereas the law and public opinion prefer to put it in one-or-the-other boxes. In modern circumstances, imho this approach is rather ludicrous and barbarian.