SHIII-still no luck! Went from Vista to Win 7

Herr-Berbunch · 10-28-10, 04:39 PM

Have you followed this thread to remove Starforce?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160118

Gerald · 10-28-10, 05:31 PM

What are your computer system spec.? As you say yourself that the set may not support W7

Ferrante · 10-28-10, 11:32 PM

Computer Profile SummaryComputer Name: Mark-PC (in WORKGROUP)Profile Date: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:28:19 AMAdvisor Version: 8.1pWindows Logon: Mark Plan for your next computer refresh...
click for Belarc's System Management products Operating System System ModelWindows 7 Home Premium (build 7600)
Install Language: English (United States)
System Locale: English (United States) HP Pavilion 061 RJ181AA-ABA a1600n 0nx1114RE101NODM300
System Serial Number:
Enclosure Type: Desktop
Processor a Main Circuit Board b2.00 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core
256 kilobyte primary memory cache
1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (2 total)
Not hyper-threaded Board: ASUSTek Computer INC. NODUSM3 1.05
Serial Number:
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 3.07 08/02/2006
Drives Memory Modules c,d200.05 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
42.55 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

HP DVD Writer 740e USB Device [Optical drive]
TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H652M ATA Device [Optical drive]

Generic- Compact Flash USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 1
Generic- MS/MS-Pro USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 4
Generic- SD/MMC USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 3
Generic- SM/xD-Picture USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 2
WDC WD20 00JS-60NCB1 SCSI Disk Device (200.05 GB) -- drive 0, SMART Status: Healthy 3520 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory

Slot 'A0' has 1024 MB
Slot 'A1' has 1024 MB
Slot 'A2' has 1024 MB
Slot 'A3' has 1024 MB Local Drive Volumes c: (NTFS on drive 0)200.05 GB42.55 GB free Network Drives None discovered

Herr-Berbunch · 10-29-10, 07:06 AM

Looking good on the specs front.

Whatever you've installed for SH3 then uninstall, remember to delete any SH3 entries in My Docs, and run a registry cleaner (I recommed CCleaner from Piriform - it's free and good!) to tidy up any messy entries.

Start your reinstallation of SH3 but NOT in Program Files folder of any sort (create your own is recommended - name it something like Gaming, or UbiGames...), don't install game shadow, don't click finish.

Appy patches (and I think the SF removal is here to), now finish. Reboot, and install mods (don't forget supermods must be installed over a fresh install) and play away...

...or so the theory goes

It is all stickied here somewhere! If I've got any steps wrong (as it's all from memory) I'm sure someone will say so.

Let us know how you get on

Ferrante · 10-30-10, 07:50 PM

I created a folder on my desktop for the installation and did as was suggested in your post. I copied the patch files into that folder and then tried the game. Wow! It did start and went throught the introductory video and then when the game was loading and neared 100% of the process. it stopped. It says windows was looking for a solution, which it did not find. I know this might be stupid, but once I patched everything and all of that, was I supposed to put the DVD back in before attempting to play the newly patched game? If not, what could be the problem?

Ferrante · 10-31-10, 07:22 PM

Any other suggestions as to why this still isn't working even though I did everything that was suggested? The game will start and when it loads, it quits. I have no clue as to what is going on...

Paulie76 · 10-31-10, 08:43 PM

I'll confess to being a little bit stumped with your issue. I had the same problem, but installing to a non-program folder fixed it for me. You have done the same thing, but are still having the same issue.

I'm going to assume here that when you installed, instead of double clicking on the install icon, you right clicked and "ran as administrator", so I don't think that would be the issue. That was what caused the issue for me, since without that administrator priviledge it wouldn't give me access to install EVERYTHING, hence the crashes.

I'm also going to assume, since it's been suggested elsewhere, that you have opened up the shortcut properties and under the compatibility tab chosen windows XP and set it up to run as administrator for all users.

The only other possibility I can think of, and it's related to the first issue of administrator priviledges, is that I have a little .bat file installed on my system called "Grant Admin full control". Before I even try installing anything, I right click on the installer, run the .bat file and it changes the ownership of the file to allow full access, then choose "run as administrator".

It has saved my butt from a heap of trouble getting older programs to work around the ownership issues in Windows 7, but it should not be the issue here since it's being installed outside of the program folders (where theoretically Windows 7 doesn't care about ownership).

Simply put, Windows 7 will protect itself from anything being installed in it's core folders with ownership rights, etc.... As long as what you're installing doesn't go in them, it doesn't care.

You could try the bat file. Do a google search for "Grant Admin full control". Right click on the installer and run the bat file on the installer, and then right click again on the installer and select "run as administrator", then install into a non-program files folder.

Like I said, it's a long shot, but other than that I'm stumped.

10-28-10, 04:39 PM	#1
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Have you followed this thread to remove Starforce? http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160118 __________________

10-28-10, 05:31 PM	#2
Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	What are your computer system spec.? As you say yourself that the set may not support W7 __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

10-28-10, 11:32 PM	#3
Ferrante Seaman Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 38 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Do these specs meet the requirements?? Computer Profile SummaryComputer Name: Mark-PC (in WORKGROUP)Profile Date: Friday, October 29, 2010 12:28:19 AMAdvisor Version: 8.1pWindows Logon: Mark Plan for your next computer refresh... click for Belarc's System Management products Operating System System ModelWindows 7 Home Premium (build 7600) Install Language: English (United States) System Locale: English (United States) HP Pavilion 061 RJ181AA-ABA a1600n 0nx1114RE101NODM300 System Serial Number: Enclosure Type: Desktop Processor a Main Circuit Board b2.00 gigahertz AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 256 kilobyte primary memory cache 1024 kilobyte secondary memory cache 64-bit ready Multi-core (2 total) Not hyper-threaded Board: ASUSTek Computer INC. NODUSM3 1.05 Serial Number: Bus Clock: 200 megahertz BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 3.07 08/02/2006 Drives Memory Modules c,d200.05 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity 42.55 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space HP DVD Writer 740e USB Device [Optical drive] TSSTcorp CD/DVDW TS-H652M ATA Device [Optical drive] Generic- Compact Flash USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 1 Generic- MS/MS-Pro USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 4 Generic- SD/MMC USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 3 Generic- SM/xD-Picture USB Device [Hard drive] -- drive 2 WDC WD20 00JS-60NCB1 SCSI Disk Device (200.05 GB) -- drive 0, SMART Status: Healthy 3520 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory Slot 'A0' has 1024 MB Slot 'A1' has 1024 MB Slot 'A2' has 1024 MB Slot 'A3' has 1024 MB Local Drive Volumes c: (NTFS on drive 0)200.05 GB42.55 GB free Network Drives None discovered

10-29-10, 07:06 AM	#4
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Looking good on the specs front. Whatever you've installed for SH3 then uninstall, remember to delete any SH3 entries in My Docs, and run a registry cleaner (I recommed CCleaner from Piriform - it's free and good!) to tidy up any messy entries. Start your reinstallation of SH3 but NOT in Program Files folder of any sort (create your own is recommended - name it something like Gaming, or UbiGames...), don't install game shadow, don't click finish. Appy patches (and I think the SF removal is here to), now finish. Reboot, and install mods (don't forget supermods must be installed over a fresh install) and play away... ...or so the theory goes It is all stickied here somewhere! If I've got any steps wrong (as it's all from memory) I'm sure someone will say so. Let us know how you get on __________________

10-30-10, 07:50 PM	#5
Ferrante Seaman Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 38 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I did as you suggested. It worked...for a few seconds... I created a folder on my desktop for the installation and did as was suggested in your post. I copied the patch files into that folder and then tried the game. Wow! It did start and went throught the introductory video and then when the game was loading and neared 100% of the process. it stopped. It says windows was looking for a solution, which it did not find. I know this might be stupid, but once I patched everything and all of that, was I supposed to put the DVD back in before attempting to play the newly patched game? If not, what could be the problem?

10-31-10, 07:22 PM	#6
Ferrante Seaman Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 38 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Even placing the disk in did not help Any other suggestions as to why this still isn't working even though I did everything that was suggested? The game will start and when it loads, it quits. I have no clue as to what is going on...

10-31-10, 08:43 PM	#7
Paulie76 Seaman Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 35 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	I'll confess to being a little bit stumped with your issue. I had the same problem, but installing to a non-program folder fixed it for me. You have done the same thing, but are still having the same issue. I'm going to assume here that when you installed, instead of double clicking on the install icon, you right clicked and "ran as administrator", so I don't think that would be the issue. That was what caused the issue for me, since without that administrator priviledge it wouldn't give me access to install EVERYTHING, hence the crashes. I'm also going to assume, since it's been suggested elsewhere, that you have opened up the shortcut properties and under the compatibility tab chosen windows XP and set it up to run as administrator for all users. The only other possibility I can think of, and it's related to the first issue of administrator priviledges, is that I have a little .bat file installed on my system called "Grant Admin full control". Before I even try installing anything, I right click on the installer, run the .bat file and it changes the ownership of the file to allow full access, then choose "run as administrator". It has saved my butt from a heap of trouble getting older programs to work around the ownership issues in Windows 7, but it should not be the issue here since it's being installed outside of the program folders (where theoretically Windows 7 doesn't care about ownership). Simply put, Windows 7 will protect itself from anything being installed in it's core folders with ownership rights, etc.... As long as what you're installing doesn't go in them, it doesn't care. You could try the bat file. Do a google search for "Grant Admin full control". Right click on the installer and run the bat file on the installer, and then right click again on the installer and select "run as administrator", then install into a non-program files folder. Like I said, it's a long shot, but other than that I'm stumped.