TEA (political)

Takeda Shingen · 10-28-10, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

The Tea party never said they were an 'orginized party' rather it is a movement towards conservatisim regardless of party afilliation.

Many have eschewed their republican registration and have registered as conservative or independant.

Its just that its pretty damn hard to find a conservative democrat.

Well as long as they are tied to the Neo-Conservatives, whom I suspect they will vote with en masse, I will not vote for them; I'll stay home. The mood of the independents is such that they will get in with or without my vote, but I will need to see their actions before they earn my support. The 'we're not the Democrats' line does not appeal to me, as I find the Neo-Conservative Republicans as repugnant as the Progressive Democrats.

Ducimus · 10-28-10, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Well as long as they are tied to the Neo-Conservatives, whom I suspect they will vote with en masse, I will not vote for them; I'll stay home. The mood of the independents is such that they will get in with or without my vote, but I will need to see their actions before they earn my support. The 'we're not the Democrats' line does not appeal to me, as I find the Neo-Conservative Republicans as repugnant as the Progressive Democrats.

That's what I did the last election, and I'll do the same this election. Ain't nobody up there worth voting for, and (in my opinion) the end results will be the same regardless who gets the office.

the_tyrant · 10-28-10, 05:41 PM

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Platapus · 10-28-10, 07:01 PM

Not voting accomplishes nothing.

Now if our elections were based on a percentage of people voting, it might mean something, but that's not how our system works.

In a representative government, it is the duty of all citizens to vote for the best candidate, not some mythical perfect candidate.

To paraphrase Donny Rumsfield -- you go to the polls with the candidates you have and you make the best of what is most likely a compromise decision.

Choosing not to vote is choosing not to support our form of governance.

Please give serious consideration to vote. Yes, it may seem like we are always picking the lessor of two evils or as South Park puts it, between a turd and a douche. But that's who we have to work with.

If you are not happy with the candidates, then work on the campaign of someone you do like. But let's make the system work as opposed to abandoning it.

Ducimus · 10-28-10, 07:36 PM

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Not voting accomplishes nothing

Neither does voting when the end result will be the same regardless of who wins. Waste my time at the polls, or stay home, end result is the same.

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Please give serious consideration to vote.

I have, and my general

August · 10-28-10, 07:44 PM

"None of the above" should be a permanent ballot choice. If it gets more votes than anyone else then a new election is held in 6 months and with different candidates. Rinse and repeat until somebody wins a real majority vote.

I'm not a fan of many party systems. Two parties ensure majority assent. With 5 candidates in a race a mere 21% of the vote can carry an election. Under our system of government that's downright scary.

Ducimus · 10-28-10, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by August

"None of the above" should be a permanent ballot choice.

If that were the case, id have the picture perfect voting record.

Sailor Steve · 10-29-10, 12:16 AM

If I vote for a third-party candidate they tell my I'm wasting my vote and hurting one side or the other.

So I tell 'em I voted for "None of the above". They tell me "If you don't vote, you have no right to complain." So if I don't like any of the candidates, I have no right to complain about all of them?

The biggest problem with public office is that the only people who want it are the worst ones to have there. Anybody who wants that kind of job doesn't deserve it, and we can't draft the ones who do.

So once-in-a-great while somebody comes along that I actually like, and I get told that I'm wasting my vote on him.

But I'm now starting on a second trip around the circle, so I'll go back to saying all this to myself.

10-28-10, 07:01 PM	#4
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,380 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Not voting accomplishes nothing. Now if our elections were based on a percentage of people voting, it might mean something, but that's not how our system works. In a representative government, it is the duty of all citizens to vote for the best candidate, not some mythical perfect candidate. To paraphrase Donny Rumsfield -- you go to the polls with the candidates you have and you make the best of what is most likely a compromise decision. Choosing not to vote is choosing not to support our form of governance. Please give serious consideration to vote. Yes, it may seem like we are always picking the lessor of two evils or as South Park puts it, between a turd and a douche. But that's who we have to work with. If you are not happy with the candidates, then work on the campaign of someone you do like. But let's make the system work as opposed to abandoning it. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

10-28-10, 07:44 PM	#6
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,216 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	"None of the above" should be a permanent ballot choice. If it gets more votes than anyone else then a new election is held in 6 months and with different candidates. Rinse and repeat until somebody wins a real majority vote. I'm not a fan of many party systems. Two parties ensure majority assent. With 5 candidates in a race a mere 21% of the vote can carry an election. Under our system of government that's downright scary. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

10-29-10, 12:16 AM	#8
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	If I vote for a third-party candidate they tell my I'm wasting my vote and hurting one side or the other. So I tell 'em I voted for "None of the above". They tell me "If you don't vote, you have no right to complain." So if I don't like any of the candidates, I have no right to complain about all of them? The biggest problem with public office is that the only people who want it are the worst ones to have there. Anybody who wants that kind of job doesn't deserve it, and we can't draft the ones who do. So once-in-a-great while somebody comes along that I actually like, and I get told that I'm wasting my vote on him. But I'm now starting on a second trip around the circle, so I'll go back to saying all this to myself. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-28-10, 05:41 PM	#3
the_tyrant Admiral Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 2,272 Downloads: 58 Uploads: 0	you guys know that we have a marijuana party here in Canada right?