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Old 10-28-10, 09:56 AM   #1
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I'm pretty sure when I went to early voting down here (Texas) I had to present ID of some sort
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Old 10-28-10, 09:59 AM   #2
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"Picture ID" is required to vote here in florida.

Its already stated so in the ballot so for this election cycle at least.
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Old 10-28-10, 11:17 AM   #3
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It is not just the illegals you guys should be worried about. The legal aliens have far more opportunities to vote.

The only thing you have to show when you register to vote is some form of ID (usually drivers license). Here in Maryland, they will ask you every time you go to the DMV (or MVA) if you want to register to vote. They do not check your legal status, or if you are an alien or not. To obtain a drivers license you need a SSN. To get the SSN you need a work permit. No citizenship required.

When I had my drivers license renewed last month, they did ask me if I wanted to registered to vote. Of course I said no, but regardless, if I wanted to vote, I just need to say "Yes" the next time I am asked. And nobody would stop me.

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I guess, my point is, a picture ID is pretty worthless, if it is not some kind of ID that is only available to US citizens.

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Old 10-28-10, 04:24 PM   #4
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I To get the SSN you need a work permit. No citizenship required.
That is misleading. Yes you can get a SSAN if you have a work visa, but your records will be flagged to indicate that you are not a citizen to prevent you from registering to vote.

When you vote, you will notice that the election officer will look you up in a poll book. If you are in the poll book, your voting eligibility has already been established. This is why if you are not in the poll book, you will be issued a provisional ballot which will only be counted after your eligibility has been verified.

The eligibility is verified before election day.
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Old 10-28-10, 04:28 PM   #5
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That is misleading. Yes you can get a SSAN if you have a work visa, but your records will be flagged to indicate that you are not a citizen to prevent you from registering to vote.

When you vote, you will notice that the election officer will look you up in a poll book. If you are in the poll book, your voting eligibility has already been established. This is why if you are not in the poll book, you will be issued a provisional ballot which will only be counted after your eligibility has been verified.

The eligibility is verified before election day.
If you records will be flagged, why do they still keep asking you? I highly doubt that any data that is based on the DMV records gets flagged in anyway. So far i was called up for jury duty twice, and they randomly choose the jurors here from the DMV register.
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Old 10-28-10, 04:31 PM   #6
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If you records will be flagged, why do they still keep asking you? I highly doubt that any data that is based on the DMV records gets flagged in anyway. So far i was called up for jury duty twice, and they randomly choose the jurors here from the DMV register.
What are they asking you?

And you are correct, the eligibility information is not part of the DMV but part of your State Election Board, the registrar to be exact.
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Old 10-28-10, 04:42 PM   #7
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What are they asking you?

And you are correct, the eligibility information is not part of the DMV but part of your State Election Board, the registrar to be exact.
To vote? Do you want to register to vote? Thats it. At this time the clerk already has my ID (drivers licence) in his hands.. They don't even ask for a Greencard or anything. Even, when I took the drivers test, or signed up for the licence I did not need to show a Passport, only my social security card and an envelope with my address.

For the jury duty? They send a letter telling you to be at the court house for jury selection at a certain date and time. On the backside of the letter is a questionnaire to fill out if you can not attend or not eligible.

Unless I tell them nobody except the DHS knows that I am not a citizen.

EDIT: Ok,to get more details, I looked it up.
I looked at the Federal and Maryland Voter Registration Forms, and neither requires a SSN, just an ID # that is valid and recognized in your state. For Maryland, your driver license number or state ID # is good enough. Unless, they flag the DMV/MVA records, I doubt there is a way to prevent me from registering and voting. Sure, if caught they may punish me. But that wasnt the question.

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