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Old 10-26-10, 10:41 AM   #1
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The Neo-Cons were firmly rejected by the voters two years ago, and rightfully so.
I dont believe that. I believe a 'rock star' got elected.

That and the palpable hatred for Bush.
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Old 10-26-10, 02:02 PM   #2
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I dont believe that. I believe a 'rock star' got elected.

That and the palpable hatred for Bush.
So the banishment of the Republican Party had nothing to do with their policies and political philosophy, but the impending loss of the Democratic Party has everything to do with their's. That's some odd logic.
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Old 10-26-10, 02:09 PM   #3
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So the banishment of the Republican Party had nothing to do with their policies and political philosophy, but the impending loss of the Democratic Party has everything to do with their's. That's some odd logic.
Its simple... buyers remorse.

This isnt the change they were hoping for.
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Old 10-26-10, 02:13 PM   #4
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Its simple... buyers remorse.

This isnt the change they were hoping for.
Okay. Same for the Neo-Cons. What's the point?
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Old 10-26-10, 02:34 PM   #5
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Its simple... buyers remorse.

This isnt the change they were hoping for.

Unlike many in my age group I did not get caught up in "Obamamania" because after reading his books and looking into his backround as much as possible, in addition to listening to his speeches, I knew he was full of bs.I tried to tell people but they would not listen.Now many of those same people have admitted I was correct.

Sad thing is, sometimes our country as a whole has to learn the hard way.2012 is around the corner though and perhaps can redeem ourselves.
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Old 10-26-10, 05:04 PM   #6
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Unlike many in my age group I did not get caught up in "Obamamania" because after reading his books and looking into his backround as much as possible
Bubble, since you have been going on the birther /muslim wingnut reading fringe as regards your presidents background, do you not think your fellow schoolkids may have been laughing at you with good cause?
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Old 10-26-10, 08:58 PM   #7
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Bubble, since you have been going on the birther /muslim wingnut reading fringe as regards your presidents background, do you not think your fellow schoolkids may have been laughing at you with good cause?

There you go again Tribes.You know a lot of people put you on the ignore list but I strangely enough enjoy your nonsense so I shall indulge you. I am no birther, I think there is some suspcious activity in that area and it should be investigated to clarify things which would prob ultimately prove he was born in the US.

Can not be disputed that he was raised a muslim and attended a muslim school.Do I think he is a muslim? no Obama's Islamic backround gives him a skewed view that makes him often act contrary to the best interests of the US when dealing with "muslim issues" such as the Mosque.I believe he is more an atheist than anything, which is fine with me because I'm an atheist although I dislike his claiming to be other but I let him pass on that mostly, public atheists just won't get elected to the Presidency in America at this time.


Well most people my age are idiots when it comes to politics, then they grow up.Most do not come into college with strong beliefs and opinions when it comes to political issues.I've read many times people tend to be pretty liberal when young and go conservative as they get older.Of course you have those who never do but point is most people my age are idiots in that regard and thus why Democrats try to court them, so they can exploit that like they do the poor, working poor and less educated.

Just love how many people who fell for the Obama facade have realized and several have personally told me I was right.I knew Obama was a Far Left hack way back and tried to tell people, esp my age group but they were caught up in it, oh well.

By the way, how are books authored by Obama himself "wingnut" reading material? The book "Dreams From My Father" was the last time Obama has been honest in public in a very, very long time.Obama was honest how he felt about race and many other things and it showed what a flawed person he really is.

The Audacity of Hope was mostly BS because he was a Senator by then and considering a run for President or already was in the early part of the race.

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Old 10-26-10, 05:32 PM   #8
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This isnt the change they were hoping for.
what did voters expect?
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Old 10-26-10, 05:40 PM   #9
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what did voters expect?
Obama came into the limelight with that 2004 speech. He was well-spoken, and seemed pretty moderate. His voting record in the Senate, and back home in IL was very very far left by the usual left/right ranking schemes (the one used by the dems to rate themselves, and the reps to rank themselves tend to pretty close agreement). Least when he bothered to vote )(admittedly, a very poor sample size given his no-shows)

So he appears as a moderate, but his far-left voting record (again, using metrics the parties both use themselves) gets lost (dunno how).

Then he starts the job, and surprise, he's really far left. Was not surprising to anyone paying attention before hand.
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And I am sure I am not the only one who did not vote "for" Obama, but voted "against" McCain.

We didn't exactly have a stellar choice that year.

One of these days, I just want to be able to vote FOR a candidate. Just once so I can say I did it.
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Old 10-26-10, 09:00 PM   #11
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And I am sure I am not the only one who did not vote "for" Obama, but voted "against" McCain.

We didn't exactly have a stellar choice that year.

One of these days, I just want to be able to vote FOR a candidate. Just once so I can say I did it.

I never understood how anyone could think Obama was less of a risk than McCain? lol I guess if everyone who voted had read his books and did some probing and not took their line from the press who were just in love with Barry O, they would not be shocked by what we have now.Ah well, we learned quick, thus what is coming tuesday.
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