Juan Williams

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Lets face it when someone starts by saying ...I am not a bigot but.....it usually indicates that they are going to say something dumb and bigoted.
Juan certainly followed that pattern.

But all his previous works, both in print and on NPR shows he isn't bigoted except for blacks.

But all his previous works

So what?
A commentator is only as good as his last noticed comment, he said something dumb and it got noticed.
Simple isn't it.

[Bubblehead1980]

Not a thing wrong with what he said.Williams wasn't saying Muslims should not be allowed to fly, he simply said that given what happened on 9/11 when he sees Muslims on a flight that he is aboard, he gets a little nervous.The man was just being honest, not a bigot, a justified feeling.The Left uses the PC crap to try and stifle free speech.I hope Williams fights NPR on this, not to get his job back but just on the principle.The reason the left has been able to institute this pc crap on our society is it went unchecked for so long due to guilt but people are fed up.

The Shirley Sherrod remarks were examples of real bigotry, but she had an apology from the President in addition stood up for by the media etc because she is a black woman and prob a Democrat, more than likely a Liberal.Williams is a moderate who does not subscribe to the ignorant victim mentality that people like Jackson or Sharpton exploit, plus he works for Fox, thus he is an uncle tom etc in the eyes of trash like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson or NAACP(Now days , tThe Black version of the KKK but without the hoods)

Williams should take legal action and once Republicans take back Congress, should cut ALL funding to NPR.

[AVGWarhawk]

The Shirley Sherrod remarks were examples of real bigotry

She was misquoted to the hilt and what she said was cherry picked to show she was some kind of bigot. Truth be told when the full content of what she said was presented it was quite the different picture then what was attempted to be painted. In short, the women was railroaded for no good reason and yeah...she deserved the apology from all involved right up to the White House.

[nikimcbee]

Time to boycott NPR for racism.

Lets start by taking away the 2% tax payer funding from NPR .

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Lets start by taking away the 2% tax payer funding from NPR .

Deal.

[tater]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Not a thing wrong with what he said.Williams wasn't saying Muslims should not be allowed to fly, he simply said that given what happened on 9/11 when he sees Muslims on a flight that he is aboard, he gets a little nervous.The man was just being honest, not a bigot, a justified feeling.The Left uses the PC crap to try and stifle free speech.I hope Williams fights NPR on this, not to get his job back but just on the principle.The reason the left has been able to institute this pc crap on our society is it went unchecked for so long due to guilt but people are fed up.

Yeah, he said what any rational person actually thinks. Anyone who doesn't is lying, plain and simple. This reminds me of when Jesse Jackson got some bad press for saying that if he was walking alone at night and there were black guys behind him, he'd feel more nervous than if they were white guys. His larger point, that there was a cultural problem that made this unfortunate, and that they needed to fix it made sense, but the remark at face value got all the press.

[tater]

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...r-davis-hanson

^^^ excellent observation.

I don’t agree with a lot of what Williams argues, but I like and respect him a great deal because he is intellectually honest, judicious, and logical, and always brings a certain dignity and calm to his opinions. NPR should know that by now. In sum, I wager that if Williams had had a second job at MSNBC or PBS, this would not be an issue. His Fox affiliation clearly is the subtext of the entire controversy.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

So what?
A commentator is only as good as his last noticed comment, he said something dumb and it got noticed.
Simple isn't it.

That was NPR's opnion and is certainly the force of cross the aisle comfort which the left is often wanting.

[tater]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

That was NPR's opnion and is certainly the force of cross the aisle comfort which the left is often wanting.

If NPR was "regular" news, it would be their right to fire him for whatever reason they liked, frankly.

They take government money, which IMO makes them beholden to the voters. They should have to vet all their stories with a bipartisan commission before airing them.

Oh wait, that's absurd.

Remove all public funding for NPR/PBS. That includes frequencies, etc.

[nikimcbee]

Originally Posted by tater

If NPR was "regular" news, it would be their right to fire him for whatever reason they liked, frankly.

They take government money, which IMO makes them beholden to the voters. They should have to vet all their stories with a bipartisan commission before airing them.

Oh wait, that's absurd.

Remove all public funding for NPR/PBS. That includes frequencies, etc.

I say, if you donate to them, when "the hand comes out" tell them no, I don't donate to racist organizations. I think it's time these lefty purveyors of PCness get a hefty dose of their own medicine.

Originally Posted by tater

If NPR was "regular" news, it would be their right to fire him for whatever reason they liked, frankly.

They take government money, which IMO makes them beholden to the voters. They should have to vet all their stories with a bipartisan commission before airing them.

Oh wait, that's absurd.

Remove all public funding for NPR/PBS. That includes frequencies, etc.

My point is that NPR hurt themsevles by dismissing Juan Williams. Now he is Fox News for $2 millions.

The Shirley Sherrod remarks were examples of real bigotry, but she had an apology from the President in addition stood up for by the media etc because she is a black woman and prob a Democrat, more than likely a Liberal.

You really do live in a bubble seperated from reality.

Yeah, he said what any rational person actually thinks.

Actually what he says lacks rationality which is the problem with what he said.

[tater]

His statement was entirely rational. In it he was describing a feeling that was largely irrational. A rational statement about a partially irrational feeling. It's rational to have a 2d look at someone who is Muslim on an airplane in the modern world. Is that thought entirely rational? No, as Williams basically said, it is not. Still, it's just rational enough a worry that any sensible person would have it even if they properly assign it a low order of probability.

So Williams is in trouble for saying the entirely rational (me paraphrasing), "I have this basically irrational fear since 9-11 of Muslims on planes. That doesn't mean that they are terrorists—in fact the vast majority clearly are not, but I think about it."

Rich Lowry has good points:

I know Williams a little from my own commentary gig at Fox, and can say he’s exactly what he appears — a likable, calls-them-as-he-sees-them liberal who, on most things, defends the Obama administration, sometimes passionately, always civilly. If Juan Williams is outside the bounds of polite discourse, then those bounds have collapsed to the point of suffocating constriction.

What Williams said on The O’Reilly Factor is that when he gets on a plane, he’s worried if he sees people “in Muslim garb” who are “identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims.” In this, he was simply acknowledging an anxiety that is felt by millions of Americans who fly.

This may not be entirely rational (the odds of being victimized by terrorism are very small), and Muslim garb is an unlikely marker of a terrorist in a U.S. airport anyway (a terrorist is likelier to try to fit in). But the connection between Muslims and terrorism exists in the public consciousness because Muslim extremists do routinely carry out acts of terror in the name of their religion. This can’t be said of Catholics, Anglicans, Lutherans, Pentecostals, Jews, Quakers, Confucians, Rastafarians, or even worshipers of the Aqua Buddha.

http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...ind-rich-lowry