French pension reforms

bookworm_020 · 10-18-10, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

The french have a lot of experience with riot organization

Maybe they could export it and help fund their early retirements?

yubba · 10-18-10, 08:57 PM

Can't wait for that too start here in the states hope Obummy is watching

See socialism is just ducky

Betonov · 10-19-10, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

Maybe they could export it and help fund their early retirements?

€15 000 I give to a French riot specialist that will organize a riot in Ljubljana

VipertheSniper · 10-19-10, 04:31 AM

The thing is though, that a reform of the pension system is in order, and I don't know the numbers for France, but in Austria the age structure of the populace is shifting towards the elders, so less workers have to pay for more pensioners who live longer... and I guess it's not much different in France.

Jimbuna · 10-19-10, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by VipertheSniper

The thing is though, that a reform of the pension system is in order, and I don't know the numbers for France, but in Austria the age structure of the populace is shifting towards the elders, so less workers have to pay for more pensioners who live longer... and I guess it's not much different in France.

Looks like this has long been the trend throughout Europe.

It also reinforces my belief I took the right decision in retiring at the age of 50

papa_smurf · 10-19-10, 07:03 AM

And the French call us Brits a bunch of complainers....

Blood_splat · 10-19-10, 08:42 AM

Soon they'll raise it to 120 for my generation

Wolfehunter · 10-22-10, 11:24 PM

I must give credit to those French. They stand up for what they believe in and they take action. They don't take crap from there politicians. Unlike the rest of us. hmmmmm

Herr-Berbunch · 10-19-10, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Looks like this has long been the trend throughout Europe.

It also reinforces my belief I took the right decision in retiring at the age of 50

Yes Jim, how is your retirement going?

The French retiring at 62? Wow! So, they work a couple of hours in the morning, a couple of hours late afternoon for forty years and that's it! Buck your ideas up fellas, pull your finger out!

Betonov · 10-19-10, 02:34 PM

Shure, I understand that the population is getting old and the life expectancy going up and we're all screwed if the only thing our children will work for is to keep our retired selves out of poverty. But for some por soul having a backbreaking work in a mine or factory, 60 years is a lot, 65 is in grave. My grandfather died at 70, now imagine working your ass of all your life and then dying after only 5 years of retirement. It's a loose loose situation until we figure out a third option, and that would be the easy part

bookworm_020 · 10-19-10, 06:33 PM

Most people are living longer (80+) and the population here in Australia is getting older. They have already raised the retirement age for accessing superannuation and the pension here, and nobody made that big a fuss about it. They are also about to start increasing the amount that is put into super from 9% to 12%, with a view that it may go higher.
At least Australia can afford it, we are in surplus (hard to believe), unemployment is low (5%, if you have a trade or can work in a mine, come on down!) and politically stable (despite a minority federal government!) They also have let the Australian dollar rise and fall freely over the last 28 years which has been a help and a hindrance, but at least it kept us grounded. Even with our dollar rising against other currencies, is has meant that at least we can't borrow large amounts of foreign debt to keep us living in a fools paradise

Jimbuna · 10-21-10, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Herr-Berbunch

Yes Jim, how is your retirement going?

The French retiring at 62? Wow! So, they work a couple of hours in the morning, a couple of hours late afternoon for forty years and that's it! Buck your ideas up fellas, pull your finger out!

Well actually....I returned to work on 20th Sept this year (in a different discipline) that allowed me to hang onto my pension

I now await the day HMRC eventually catch up with me

SteamWake · 10-21-10, 11:10 AM

Dont the french already have a 4 day work week?

Oberon · 10-21-10, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I now await the day HMRC eventually catch up with me

nikimcbee · 10-21-10, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Well actually....I returned to work on 20th Sept this year (in a different discipline) that allowed me to hang onto my pension

I now await the day HMRC eventually catch up with me

and yes I found footage of Jim at work. Well, actually, this footage was from the subsim meeting where Jim and Tarjak did a little performence to earn some extra drinking money for that night. But you get the idea

I just gotta know, what is your stage name?

10-18-10, 08:57 PM	#2
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Wolfehunter Crusty Capt. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,752 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 25	I must give credit to those French. They stand up for what they believe in and they take action. They don't take crap from there politicians. Unlike the rest of us. hmmmmm __________________

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bookworm_020 Navy Seal Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Sinking ships off the Australian coast Posts: 5,966 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Most people are living longer (80+) and the population here in Australia is getting older. They have already raised the retirement age for accessing superannuation and the pension here, and nobody made that big a fuss about it. They are also about to start increasing the amount that is put into super from 9% to 12%, with a view that it may go higher. At least Australia can afford it, we are in surplus (hard to believe), unemployment is low (5%, if you have a trade or can work in a mine, come on down!) and politically stable (despite a minority federal government!) They also have let the Australian dollar rise and fall freely over the last 28 years which has been a help and a hindrance, but at least it kept us grounded. Even with our dollar rising against other currencies, is has meant that at least we can't borrow large amounts of foreign debt to keep us living in a fools paradise __________________ "There is always one person in any organization who knows whats going on, That person must be fired"

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SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Dont the french already have a 4 day work week? __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

10-19-10, 04:31 AM	#4
VipertheSniper Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austria Posts: 1,072 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The thing is though, that a reform of the pension system is in order, and I don't know the numbers for France, but in Austria the age structure of the populace is shifting towards the elders, so less workers have to pay for more pensioners who live longer... and I guess it's not much different in France.

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Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Shure, I understand that the population is getting old and the life expectancy going up and we're all screwed if the only thing our children will work for is to keep our retired selves out of poverty. But for some por soul having a backbreaking work in a mine or factory, 60 years is a lot, 65 is in grave. My grandfather died at 70, now imagine working your ass of all your life and then dying after only 5 years of retirement. It's a loose loose situation until we figure out a third option, and that would be the easy part