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Old 10-04-10, 01:51 PM   #16
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No one has explained the disparity in the poll. I am open to an arguement.
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Old 10-04-10, 01:52 PM   #17
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Look at the poll.
Look at post #10
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Old 10-04-10, 01:55 PM   #18
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Dowly, you must be psychic.

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While it is probably true that some black people support obama because he is black this poll does not actually support that, it does not touch upon the issue as the question asked was wether they suppoert Obama not if the support Obama because he is black. It does not support the sweeping generalisation you made.
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Old 10-04-10, 01:55 PM   #19
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So if I assume folks in group B are not racist, then folks in group A are? How about the arguement that both groups are racist. One group votes and polls along those lines more than others and are more racist.
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Old 10-04-10, 01:56 PM   #20
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Let's see. Most blacks are Democrat, most whites are Republican.
Not true. Whites are basically the normal spread. 1/3 D, 1/3 R, 1/3 independent.

Blacks are 90-something % D—which is odd, frankly.

The stat cited, however, tells us nothing. What is his approval among White DEMOCRATS. That would say something about a racial divide. The 36% of whites that approve pretty much mimics the % of whites who are democrats.
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Old 10-04-10, 02:03 PM   #21
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Blacks vote based on color, not what the person does for them politically. Whites vote based on color, not what the person does for them politically.
They both vote based upon the letter next to the candidates name. Evidence of this is in the fact that some people of this nation, regardless of race, join a particular political party of their choosing. And once they've joined said political party they vote only for that party.
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Old 10-04-10, 02:08 PM   #22
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The other explanation is based on cognitive issues. You won't like the poll that way either. Can you tell me how best to explain the enormous disparity? Those who think it not a black/white issue that is.
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No one has explained the disparity in the poll. I am open to an arguement.
The poll entirely lacks the piece of information required to even measure race. It needs to look at racial difference within the democratic party. 90-something % of blacks are democrats, and 90-something % approve.

~30-something % of whites are democrats, and around 30-something % approve. Nothing to see here, move along—or is there something there that the poll doesn't tell us?

Actually, the fact that blacks monolithically vote for one party IS a sign of a racial bias on their part. Since other groups are "normally" spread among different political values (even across income levels), it is odd for a group not to be. A large % must pull the "D" lever without thinking about it at all.

If black support for BO is significantly higher than white democrat support for BO, then is certainly shows they like him for his race as a primary factor I think. Need that data, though.

All the poll breakout says is that generically, Democrat support is 79%. That is weighted by the increased black support, so clearly white, democratic support is below 79%.

That does show a real divide. I think that it certainly points out the racism of the black voters, actually. They support BO at rates higher than other democrats, and his race is a likely reason.
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Team D sells envy. Team R sells fear. The wise will see the discrepancy therein.
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Team D sells envy. Team R sells fear. The wise will see the discrepancy therein.
Team T sells real values and real hope.
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Team T sells real values and real hope.
And team W sells personal insults.
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Old 10-04-10, 02:26 PM   #27
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And team W sells personal insults.
Which we all ignore. So no harm ...no foul. And he has been gone for two years.
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Which we all ignore. So no harm ...no foul.
You wouldn't be so bad if you picked a personality and stuck with it. Really.
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You wouldn't be so bad if you picked a personality and stuck with it. Really.
I'm not sure what you mean by picking a personality, and sticking with that personality? ( I don't end sentences with prepositions. )
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