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[antikristuseke]

You should pay me to take u-571 off your hands.

[papa_smurf]

You should pay me to take u-571 off your hands.

Yeah, so wheres Das Boot?

[CaptainMattJ.]

Originally Posted by antikristuseke

You should pay me to take u-571 off your hands.

wow. Whats with everyone's hatred towards U-571. It truly wasnt as bad as everybody here made it to be.

[antikristuseke]

It was plenty bad ennough. Though by far not the worst movie I have ever seen.

[CaptainMattJ.]

thats because you feed on tiny details and your a diehard sub fan. i like to consider myself a big fan of subs, too but i didnt care that it wasnt accurate to the tip. The only Big impossible blatently innaccurate scene was the underwater battle, and if you guys learn to disregard that one scene it was a good movie.

I honestly dont know what you all expect. its a movie. Movies need SOMETHING interesting. Frankly patrolling for days on end without sightings of any kind, bored out of your gourd, isnt a movie. its a documentary. And, it HOLLYWOOOD. alot of their movies are just impossible beyond all belief, but U-571 was good. good plot. great acting. and one impossible scene out of the entire movie ( which was.......possible, only very very VERY VERY VEEEEERY VEEEEEEERY VERY VERY VERY improbable). but it was exciting. I liked the beginning too. in the U-boat.

You just gotta learn to relaaaaaxx. And enjoy the movie. This was a decently accurate movie, but you cant let that get to you. just relax and enjoy. You want realism? go join the navy. (or rejoin for some).thats about as real as your ever gonna get. thats 110% realism right there.

[Sailor Steve]

Didn't you already have this conversation once? Somebody said he didn't like the movie, and you're starting an argument over it again.

[antikristuseke]

Corporal, recon infantry, in the reserves now, got plenty of realism there. And I would join the navy if i hadnt ruined my knee

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

thats because you feed on tiny details and your a diehard sub fan. i like to consider myself a big fan of subs, too but i didnt care that it wasnt accurate to the tip. The only Big impossible blatently innaccurate scene was the underwater battle, and if you guys learn to disregard that one scene it was a good movie.

I honestly dont know what you all expect. its a movie. Movies need SOMETHING interesting. Frankly patrolling for days on end without sightings of any kind, bored out of your gourd, isnt a movie. its a documentary. And, it HOLLYWOOOD. alot of their movies are just impossible beyond all belief, but U-571 was good. good plot. great acting. and one impossible scene out of the entire movie ( which was.......possible, only very very VERY VERY VEEEEERY VEEEEEEERY VERY VERY VERY improbable). but it was exciting. I liked the beginning too. in the U-boat.

You just gotta learn to relaaaaaxx. And enjoy the movie. This was a decently accurate movie, but you cant let that get to you. just relax and enjoy. You want realism? go join the navy. (or rejoin for some).thats about as real as your ever gonna get. thats 110% realism right there.

Details are the difference between the dilettante and the connoisseur. This website caters to the latter.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

This was a decently accurate movie

Actually it wasn't....the plot was fatally flawed throughout.....so flawed and innacurate that the American screenwriter David Ayer issued a public apology for distorting the truth.

You do know who captured the first Enigma don't you?

[Legionary74]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Actually it wasn't....the plot was fatally flawed throughout.....so flawed and innacurate that the American screenwriter David Ayer issued a public apology for distorting the truth.

You do know who captured the first Enigma don't you?

Britain from U-110

[Legionary74]

Wouldnt of known that if not for this book

http://www.amazon.com/True-Stories-S.../dp/0746057482


xD

[CaptainMattJ.]

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Actually it wasn't....the plot was fatally flawed throughout.....so flawed and innacurate that the American screenwriter David Ayer issued a public apology for distorting the truth.

You do know who captured the first Enigma don't you?

well the entire movie was realistic fiction, therefore it was based on real events but didnt ACTUALLY happen. Of course it didnt. therefore it didnt matter if it was captured on U-110 or U-999 it wasnt based on an actual event it was based on the submarine war in general.

and yes steve i did have roughly this same conversation, but still dont hate U 571 JUST because of its inaccuracy. It wasnt that bad a movie when overlooking its historical fallacies. but to be honest the beginning was fairly accurate, when they calculated the information and all.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

well the entire movie was realistic fiction, therefore it was based on real events but didnt ACTUALLY happen. Of course it didnt. therefore it didnt matter if it was captured on U-110 or U-999 it wasnt based on an actual event it was based on the submarine war in general.

and yes steve i did have roughly this same conversation, but still dont hate U 571 JUST because of its inaccuracy. It wasnt that bad a movie when overlooking its historical fallacies. but to be honest the beginning was fairly accurate, when they calculated the information and all.

You say it "didn't matter matter if it was captured on U-110 or U-999 it wasnt based on an actual event it was based on the submarine war in general"

The blatant distortion certainly mattered to some....and below says it all.

Rather cynically, American screenwriter David Ayer depicted American rather than British naval officers capturing the first Enigma machine, “in order to drive the movie for an American audience.” The first Enigma machine was in fact seized by officers from HMS Bulldog in 1941 and by the time the USA joined the war later that year, Britain had cracked the code. The post-release furore led Tony Blair, Prime Minister at the time, to agree that it was “an affront to the memories” of those involved and Bill Clinton, then US President, to write a letter emphasising the film’s fictional nature. In 2006, Ayer told the BBC he had come to regret the alteration: “Both my grandparents were officers in World War II, and I would be personally offended if somebody distorted their achievements.”

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

The only Big impossible blatently innaccurate scene was the underwater battle, and if you guys learn to disregard that one scene it was a good movie.

Don't forget the single engine German fighter flying around out in the middle of the Atlantic. I guess the Graf Zeppelin finally made it out of port in this movie?

But it gets even sillier than that, because IIRC in that same scene, the sub captain tells his crew to act normal, and has to prevent one of them from manning the AA guns.

As if the German pilot would be able to tell if anything is suspicious or not as he buzzes the u-boat.

And wouldn't the correct, and least suspicious thing to do simply be to crash dive?

Frankly patrolling for days on end without sightings of any kind, bored out of your gourd, isnt a movie.

Sounds like a large part of Das Boot.

You just gotta learn to relaaaaaxx. And enjoy the movie. This was a decently accurate movie, but you cant let that get to you. just relax and enjoy. You want realism? go join the navy. (or rejoin for some).thats about as real as your ever gonna get. thats 110% realism right there.

It's annoying because the real stories of the war are so much more interesting than the crap Hollywood thinks it has to make up.

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by AngusJS

Don't forget the single engine German fighter flying around out in the middle of the Atlantic. I guess the Graf Zeppelin finally made it out of port in this movie?

If they stuck some pontoons on the aircraft it would have been accurate, but then its hard for the movie going public to take such an aircraft as a threat unless they were familiar with WWII aircraft.

Also they may have just had a BF-109 sitting around somewhere they rented, I imagine there is not many Arado floatplanes remaining in the world.