Iranian military technology.. - Page 2

Oberon · 10-02-10, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

awesome catapult vs mech inf pic

Platapus · 10-02-10, 06:25 PM

I would not knock "old technology".

Consider what the Afghans did to the Russians in the 1980's with "old technology"

Consider what Iran did to Iraq with "old technology" in the 1980's

Consider what Iraq did to the US with "old technology" during the Invasion of Iraq.

It is dangerous to underestimate what a motivated enemy can do to you with "old technology".

It does not matter much whether you are killed with a 2010 Hell-fire missile or killed with a bundled WWII ordnance IED.

It is not about the technology but the motivation of the soldier to his or her cause that wins battles.

Oberon · 10-02-10, 06:30 PM

gimpy117 · 10-02-10, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I would not knock "old technology".

Consider what the Afghans did to the Russians in the 1980's with "old technology"

Consider what Iran did to Iraq with "old technology" in the 1980's

Consider what Iraq did to the US with "old technology" during the Invasion of Iraq.

It is dangerous to underestimate what a motivated enemy can do to you with "old technology".

It does not matter much whether you are killed with a 2010 Hell-fire missile or killed with a bundled WWII ordnance IED.

It is not about the technology but the motivation of the soldier to his or her cause that wins battles.

okay...WE gave the Taliban new weaponry in the 80's such as the stinger missile. As to Iraq, casualty reports from iraq show that, although we lost many good men...the opposing forces lost many, many more. And a Bomb is a bomb. Sure, they can put TnT on a road and detonate with a car battery...but can their ordinance fly through a window or bust a bunker deep underground? Nope.

nice try, our military is Set up for a ground war vs. another nation. not gurilla activities. Iran would be toast. All the motivation in the world won't stop that hellfire from destroying your tank.

Raptor1 · 10-02-10, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gimpy117

okay...WE gave the Taliban new weaponry in the 80's such as the stinger missile. As to Iraq, casualty reports from iraq show that, although we lost many good men...the opposing forces lost many, many more. And a Bomb is a bomb. Sure, they can put TnT on a road and detonate with a car battery...but can their ordinance fly through a window or bust a bunker deep underground? Nope.

nice try, our military is Set up for a ground war vs. another nation. not gurilla activities. Iran would be toast. All the motivation in the world won't stop that hellfire from destroying your tank.

Mujahideen, not Taliban. The Taliban did not become a factor until after the Soviets withdrew.

Your point is valid, though. Those forces never actually tactically won a single major battle against their better equipped and trained enemies, they inflicted damage simply by continuing to exist and harass the enemy over prolonged periods of time. The French were under the impression that motivation won battles in 1914 as well and it did not do them much good.

Betonov · 10-03-10, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Oberon

a Civ fan I see

not to derail the thread: Iranian leaders are just longing for attention. We should humor them so they dont do anything stupid ignored people tend to do

Castout · 10-03-10, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

not to derail the thread: Iranian leaders are just longing for attention

yea that, that could be their way of trying to make friends with the west

May seem strange but . . .

gimpy117 · 10-03-10, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

a Civ fan I see

not to derail the thread: Iranian leaders are just longing for attention. We should humor them so they dont do anything stupid ignored people tend to do

yeah, my roomie had a game where he was killing calvary with a giant robot

TLAM Strike · 10-03-10, 10:04 PM

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yeah, my roomie had a game where he was killing calvary with a giant robot

Did you know that US SOF forces along with the Northern Alliance during Operation Enduring Freedom did a Cavalry Charge against the Taliban? The SECDEF called their attacks the 1st US cavalry charge of the 21st century.

one of the troops involved wrote a book about it...

Oberon · 10-04-10, 07:43 AM

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Did you know that US SOF forces along with the Northern Alliance during Operation Enduring Freedom did a Cavalry Charge against the Taliban? The SECDEF called their attacks the 1st US cavalry charge of the 21st century.

one of the troops involved wrote a book about it...

Awesome

The British Army has a weapon that never grows old:

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The British Army performed bayonet charges during the Falklands War, the Second Gulf War, and the war in Afghanistan. Recently in Iraq at the Battle of Danny Boy, the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders bayonet charged mortar positions filled with over 100 Mahdi Army members. The ensuing hand to hand fighting resulted in an estimate of over 40 insurgents killed and 35 bodies collected (many floated down the river) and 9 prisoners. Sergeant Brian Wood, of the Princess of Wales's Royal Regiment, was awarded the Military Cross for his part in the battle. This engagement brought to notice the tactical use of the weapon for close combat and the sheer psychological effect it can have. Similarly, in 2009, Lieutenant James Adamson, aged 24, of the Royal Regiment of Scotland was awarded the Military Cross for a bayonet charge whilst on a tour of duty in Afghanistan: after shooting one Taliban fighter dead Adamson had run out of ammunition when another enemy appeared. Adamson immediately charged the second Taliban fighter and bayoneted him.

Herr-Berbunch · 10-04-10, 08:45 AM

That pic of the Saeqeh is like somebody photoshopped an F18 tail onto an F5.

TLAM Strike · 10-04-10, 09:57 AM

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That pic of the Saeqeh is like somebody photoshopped an F18 tail onto an F5.

Funny thing is that its not... they really took a worn out F-5 Tiger and rebuilt it with a F/A-18 style tail then declared it a totally new aircraft.

Herr-Berbunch · 10-04-10, 11:02 AM

Lol, so a huge payload of erm, just the two sidewinders then? Some fighter

Weiss Pinguin · 10-04-10, 01:41 PM

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Spearman beats everything!

Jimbuna · 10-04-10, 03:06 PM

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Spearman beats everything!

Apart from the British Bayonet Man

10-02-10, 06:25 PM	#17
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,379 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I would not knock "old technology". Consider what the Afghans did to the Russians in the 1980's with "old technology" Consider what Iran did to Iraq with "old technology" in the 1980's Consider what Iraq did to the US with "old technology" during the Invasion of Iraq. It is dangerous to underestimate what a motivated enemy can do to you with "old technology". It does not matter much whether you are killed with a 2010 Hell-fire missile or killed with a bundled WWII ordnance IED. It is not about the technology but the motivation of the soldier to his or her cause that wins battles. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	That pic of the Saeqeh is like somebody photoshopped an F18 tail onto an F5. __________________

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Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Lol, so a huge payload of erm, just the two sidewinders then? Some fighter __________________

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20