Sidewinder

TLAM Strike · 10-02-10, 06:42 PM

Not that impressive, a MGM-1 Matador had much lower performance over a Super Saber.

The Matador was basically a "Super V-1".

A Regulus II would have left the Super Saber in the dust...

bookworm_020 · 10-02-10, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Not that impressive, a MGM-1 Matador had much lower performance over a Super Saber.

The Matador was basically a "Super V-1".

A Regulus II would have left the Super Saber in the dust...

When you consider when missile was first produced, the achievement of packing so much in to such a small missile and making it work at that time in history, it really brings it to attention what a ground breaking weapon it was. The big daddy of all heat seeker missiles!

TLAM Strike · 10-02-10, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bookworm_020

When you consider when missile was first produced, the achievement of packing so much in to such a small missile and making it work at that time in history, it really brings it to attention what a ground breaking weapon it was. The big daddy of all heat seeker missiles!

Well the US had two IR weapons in development at the time. The Sidewinder was the Navy's the Falcon was the Air Force's.

Arguably the AIM-4 Falcon was the better missile on paper, it was faster, had longer range, and was more versatile (had IR, SARH, and Nuc configs). But in combat the AIM-9 had better reliability, the rest is history...

bookworm_020 · 10-03-10, 01:54 AM

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Well the US had two IR weapons in development at the time. The Sidewinder was the Navy's the Falcon was the Air Force's.

Arguably the AIM-4 Falcon was the better missile on paper, it was faster, had longer range, and was more versatile (had IR, SARH, and Nuc configs). But in combat the AIM-9 had better reliability, the rest is history...

The Russians coped a Sidewider for their own air force, know as the AA-2 Atoll

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA-2_Atoll

I stated the Sidewinder as the father of IR missiles as it also was the father of many Soviet/Russian missiles as well.

CCIP · 10-03-10, 02:27 AM

Really had its share of teething problems, but survives to this day as one hell of a weapon

NeonSamurai · 10-03-10, 08:49 PM

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Really had its share of teething problems, but survives to this day as one hell of a weapon

That is true, in Vietnam the Sidewinders were about as reliable as the Sparrow was, and needed a near perfect sight picture (not near the sun or pointed towards the ground, and almost dead astern). Plus like the sparrow it would often go ballistic, or fail to ignite or release.

krashkart · 10-03-10, 09:56 PM

On planes without guns, in some cases.

TLAM Strike · 10-03-10, 08:27 AM

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I stated the Sidewinder as the father of IR missiles as it also was the father of many Soviet/Russian missiles as well.

The British may disagree...

Jimbuna · 10-03-10, 11:23 AM

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The British may disagree...

Quite true but we (British) are still using the Sidewinder to this day.

TLAM Strike · 10-03-10, 08:29 PM

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Quite true but we (British) are still using the Sidewinder to this day.

Well that started in the 1980s and is soon to end. The RAF is going to be using the ASRAAM now.

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krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	On planes without guns, in some cases.