15 Great Leaders Through History

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

here is my list.

17 political leaders who had the most significant impact, good or bad, in the age they lived in:

Mao
Stalin
Hitler
Napoleon
Frederick the Great
Peter the Great
Louis XIV
Akbar the Great
Charles V
Tamerlane
Genghis Khan
Charlemagne
Muhammad
Justinian I
Gaius Julius Caesar Augustus
Alexander the Great
Ramses II the Great

yes, not one american, but it is hard to pick out of 40 centuries of recorded human history.

I thought about including Tamerlane on my list, but limited myself to 15. And what I could rattle off my head.

Personally, I think Thutmose III was a better Pharoah than Ramses II.

Indeed, he's laughing at you!!

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Torvald Von Mansee

Personally, I think Thutmose III was a better Pharoah than Ramses II.

its really a coin toss between them if you are going to pick a great Pharaoh.

Charles martel is an interesting choice, but I guess a case can be made that he stopped the muslims from conquering all of western europe.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Charles martel is an interesting choice, but I guess a case can be made that he stopped the muslims from conquering all of western europe.

And Ferdinand and Isabella kicked them out of Spain. That counts for at least an Honorable Mention.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And Ferdinand and Isabella kicked them out of Spain. That counts for at least an Honorable Mention.

true and they sent Columbus on his way as well.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

true and they sent Columbus on his way as well.

I left that part out because I felt that it owed less to good leadership than to greed, or at least international competition.

[frau kaleun]

Napoleon, in an epic win FTW.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Charles Martel is an interesting choice, but I guess a case can be made that he stopped the muslims from conquering all of western europe.

And that's why I chose him!!! Right guy at the right time made all the difference.