NOT Obama, but bring your popcorn.

If Christine O'Donnell had dabbled in atheism would any one be laughing?

What about Nancy Pelosi, #3 for the most powerful position in the US? She is Roman Catholic, believing in the literal transmutation of bread and water into the body and blood of Christ, and must take her walking orders from the Pope, who is a former Hitler-Jugend, to be in good standing in her church.

PS VP Joe Biden is also Roman Catholic. It is only Barack Obama who is thought by 24% of the people to be muslim.

[antikristuseke]

eh?

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

If Christine O'Donnell had dabbled in atheism would any one be laughing?

Huh? And how can you dabble in atheism?

What about Nancy Pelosi, #3 for the most powerful position in the US? She is Roman Catholic, believing in the literal transmutation of bread and water into the body and blood of Christ, and must take her walking orders from the Pope, who is a former Hitler-Jugend, to be in good standing in her church.

PS VP Joe Biden is also Roman Catholic.

Huh?

And how could it be impossible for people to not believe in god, regardless of whatever tired creationist tripe "debunking" abiogenesis says?

Sorry if I confused. If you cannot observe the action directly the theory has no value. Einstien, and all real science depends on this. That which cannot be directly observed is not science,

Whithout direct observation science fails. Thus atheism fails unless it is itsself a religion.

[ETR3(SS)]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Sorry if I confused. If you cannot observe the action directly the theory has no value. Einstien, and all real science depends on this. That which cannot be directly observed is not science,

Whithout direct observation science fails. Thus atheism fails unless it is itsself a religion.

By that argument religion fails on the scientific level as well.

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

By that argument religion fails on the scientific level as well.

But who said religion was about science? I surely did not. It is about belief and dare I say it faith in a power higher than man.

[razark]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Thus atheism fails unless it is itsself a religion.

No, atheism is nothing more than a lack of belief in any gods.

Atheism makes no claims. It is merely a statement about belief. Atheism is not "There are no gods." Atheism is "I do not believe in any gods."

Originally Posted by razark

It is merely a statement about belief.

Sounds like religion. Christanity,Judaism, Muslim, Taoism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Wicca, Sihkism, Cao Dai , etc; are all statements about belief.

[razark]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Sounds like religion. Christanity,Judaism, Muslim, Taoism, Hinduism, Buddhism, Wicca, Sihkism, Cao Dai , etc; are all statements about belief.

Very well, then. Atheism is a religion.

And bald is a hair color. Not collecting stamps is a hobby.

Originally Posted by razark

Very well, then. Atheism is a religion.

And bald is a hair color. Not collecting stamps is a hobby.

I see you have difficulty equating belief with religion. OK. What do you think religion is if not belief.

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Sorry if I confused. If you cannot observe the action directly the theory has no value. Einstien, and all real science depends on this. That which cannot be directly observed is not science,

Whithout direct observation science fails. Thus atheism fails unless it is itsself a religion.

Atheism is a lack of faith in gods, it makes no positive claims, religions on the other hand does make positive claims without presenting positive evidence. Even if the theory of evolution was to be falcified it would not make creationism in any form any more true.
Also equating the theories of abiogenesis and evolution with atheism is a non sequitur.

[gimpy117]

okay i brought my corn, whats up?

Lets take the argument that atheism is not a religion. I think it is a religion.

The US Constitution protects its citizens from government intervention into religion, if athiests claim to have no religion, then what protects their 'non-religion' from being curtailed, if not persecuted within the law?

[antikristuseke]

Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion. Persecuting someone because they are religious is the same as persecuting someone who isn't.

Edit: If atheism is a religion, what are its doctrines?

[geetrue]

The finite end of my camera lens (me) can not figure out infinite end of my lens (God)