Favorite President ?

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

I admire Teddy Roosevelt. He championed the idea of the "Square Deal," which he would have been lambasted by the drooling yahoos of today for. He wanted to reign in corporate excesses, namely in the railroads:



Plus, he was a badass. I mean here he is riding a swimming moose:

Teddy Roosevelt = Awesome!

He has to be on any short list of the best world leaders.

He was also the first US President to travel aboard a Submarine.

[the_tyrant]

Teddy Roosevelt for sure！(although i'm canadian)

come on, he was shot before a speech and he insisted on finishing it

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Originally Posted by the_tyrant

...he was shot before a speech and he insisted on finishing it

Did you know that Teddy Roosevelt is alive today? He changed his name to Chuck Norris.

[Skybird]

What good, real statesmen there have been in a far away past, is not that important. The important question is: why don't we have any today? Not a single name there is left today whom I would call that: a statesman. Instead we have attention-craving career-managers playing Diplomacy, and political party oligarchies that have completely hijacked and assassinated democracy and have put their own power interests before state's reason and the interest of the community. It's a total mess.

Can't say I know all US presidents there have been, but time and again I stumble over the quotes by Jefferson, and I think Eisenhower was a very good one, too, often a bit understimated. He was able to form bridges between Reps and Dems, instead of polarising them, and he had an indepoth knopwledge from first hand of the military and the interlinkiung between industry and military. Also, he did not want to become president, and had no craving for it, which again speaks for him. Both Roosevelts also get my positive attention.

In Germany, to me and many other Germans the choice is clear: Helmut Schmidt probabaly was the most clever and truthful chancellor we ever had - a bit arrogant, but Hanseatic in the best meaning fo the word, a Prussian- influenced officer with a stroing sense of duty (he even dared to reject the Bundesverdienstkreuz, Germany'S highest order, after he had left office, because he said that he did his duty, and fulfilling one's duty must not be rewarded). Even while now being in his 90s, he is still held in high esteem as one of the highest moral authorities in this country - and one of the most intelligent analysts of German and global politics we have.
Richard von Weizsäcker also is on my mind, an educated, decent gentleman from a family that has brought up several bright minds known in the world of science, politics, arts. Money and wealth was not what brought Schmidt and von Weizsäcker to ranks and honours.

[Jimbuna]

Roosevelt he came to the aid of the UK when we stood alone against Hitler.

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Roosevelt he came to the aid of the UK when we stood alone against Hitler.

FWI for all Europeans...

Roosevelt in WWII = FDR
Roosevelt from Spanish American War = Teddy

Not all non Americans know there were two. There were also two Adams, two Harrisons and two Bushes

[Oberon]

Both Roosevelts were great presidents, I can't deny that. FDR was a fantastic friend to the UK and pushed every law he could to help us whilst still at peace, and those fireside chats...I still think that modern Presidents or Prime Ministers should do this, by radio, so as not to intrude on television, but just a communication to the people they govern as to what's going on, what the President thinks, that kinda thing.
Teddy Roosevelt, well, I don't actually know much about him aside from what has been written in this thread (and that's awesome enough) but, I mean, he just looks awesome, heck, they both do.


Epic glasses

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Oberon

Both Roosevelts were great presidents, I can't deny that. FDR was a fantastic friend to the UK and pushed every law he could to help us whilst still at peace,

I'm wondering if history might have turned out differently post Dec 41...when America was attacked by Japan, America declared war on Japan but not Germany.

We have Hitler to thank for it was he who declared war on America....otherwise it is possible the Americans may have put major emphasis on the PTO and left Britain and the Commonwealth to get on with the war in Europe.

We did declare war on Japan in support of our American cousins though.

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

I'm wondering if history might have turned out differently post Dec 41...when America was attacked by Japan, America declared war on Japan but not Germany.

We have Hitler to thank for it was he who declared war on America....otherwise it is possible the Americans may have put major emphasis on the PTO and left Britain and the Commonwealth to get on with the war in Europe.

We did declare war on Japan in support of our American cousins though.

I think being at war with Japan would have neutralised any former hesitation to get engaged in Europe as well, so maybe it would have changed the timing a bit if Hitler would not have declared war, but sooner or later the US would have entered the European war, too.