Why Obama is so bad and why Europe loves him

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

He can not be underestimated. Besides, who is really out there that can compete?

Was Obama a competitor in Sep 2006? Obama wasn't even a US Senator in Sep 2006.

Perhaps the next president will also sneak up on you like Obama did to Hilary Clinton.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Was Obama a competitor in Sep 2006? Obama wasn't even a US Senator in Sep 2006.

Yes. This was all orchestrated long before hitting the political trail. Obama did not wake up one day and say lets run for president. He was groomed and backed by quite a few. Yes, sir, he was a competitor....the world just did not know it yet.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Yes. This was all orchestrated long before hitting the political trail. Obama did not wake up one day and say lets run for president. He was groomed and backed by quite a few. Yes, sir, he was a competitor....the world just did not know it yet.

Well then what makes you think it isn't happening again?

BTW Obama won the senate by default because his opponent was involved in a scandal. Sex.

[AVGWarhawk]

As stated above. He knows how to motivate people. I strongly believe he will have those that do not normally vote go out and vote again. His campaign was played like a first chair violin. He is by no means a dope. I would say his losing in 2012 is not in 'the bag.'

Obama is doing the same thing to the Dems as Carter. But it may be worse. Subconsciencely, many could be looking toward countries which are also governed as Obama has governed and don't want to be like those countries.

[AVGWarhawk]

Well, look at the bright side...there is no Panama Canal to give away!

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Well, look at the bright side...there is no Panama Canal to give away!

Good one!

Its a nation of 300 million people and their great-great grand children he is giving away.

Economically there are basically two ways to go. You either have policies which draw people up or policies which drag people down. Obama is of the drag people down school.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Good one!

Its a nation of 300 million people and their great-great grand children he is giving away.

My I ask you...what is the answer to the worlds debacle at present? What have the Repubs have that the Dems don't? Let's not forget for a minute that the economic downturn started at the end of Bush's run. Bush signed the first stimulus bill. Did it get any better? Had it gotten any better with new stimulus packages? No sir. The maddening truth here is Reid/Pelosi and the rest of the dead weight in DC need to go.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

My I ask you...what is the answer to the worlds debacle at present? What have the Repubs have that the Dems don't? Let's not forget for a minute that the economic downturn started at the end of Bush's run. Bush signed the first stimulus bill. Did it get any better? Had it gotten any better with new stimulus packages? No sir. The maddening truth here is Reid/Pelosi and the rest of the dead weight in DC need to go.

Currently no, the Repubs are too much like the Dems, thus the rise of the tea party movement. Which is just as hostile towards Repubs as Dems.

What you call the first bail out I assume you mean TARP. Those were loans which have been paid back with interest. TARP didn't take controll of an industry like Obama did with General Motors.

I don't disagree with you on this...."Reid/Pelosi and the rest of the dead weight in DC need to go."

But perhaps for different reasons.

[AVGWarhawk]

What you call the first bail out I assume you mean TARP. Those were loans which have been paid back with interest. TARP didn't take controll of an industry like Obama did with General Motors.

True but I think the natural progression of taking control of the industry after TARP was in the cards no matter who was at the wheel.

[antikristuseke]

He isn't really popular here, he is just less unpopular than Bush was.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

True but I think the natural progression of taking control of the industry after TARP was in the cards no matter who was at the wheel.

I think you wrong. TARP was very limited in scope compared to the so-called stimulous package, which we now know is wasted money..

TARP was Federal Reserve money which we know, thanks to Alexander Hamilton, is not part of the US government, and its parasitic tax policy.

[tater]

Yeah, but in the context of "America" meaning USA (1776+), "Mexico" must also mean the nation. If he meant indigenous peoples, then you have to include those in what is now the US, too.

Bottom line is that had this been the previous President, the Press would be making MY argument, be sure Obama's gaffes are just misstatements—"we know what he meant, but he's very busy, and has to talk to a lot of people, etc." When Bush did the same "he's not that bright."

I think in general most such misstatements (by all Presidents, yes, even Bush) are actually just accidents that happen when you live under a microscope.

[Catfish]

Originally Posted by Gammelpreusse

You mean all these industries Bavaria build up from the money they got from the Länderfinanzausgleich well into the early 90ies, enabling that place to get where it is now from the agrarian state it has been before in the first place?

Coming from Northrhine Westphalia, it is really astonishing how bavarians fed their egos with our money.

So, basicly, socialism got bavaria where it is now.

^^
This.
I already wanted to mention the Länderfinanzausgleich which is "gladly" mostly forgotten
And hadn't the Saupreiss Frederick 2nd helped Bavaria in the potato war 1778, you bavarians would now belong to Austria

Greetings,
Catfish

If one is going to quote the Declaration it would be best to do it in total. Otherwise you lose both your audiance, who also know the Declaration, and the electorate.