DREAM Act, more like the NIGHTMARE Act

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by XabbaRus

If you are wondering why the personal attacks then maybe you should think about the way that you introduce your posts.

They are full of invective and fury not rational analysis. A lot of people agree with you as disagree with you but a lot of how a discussion continues and how people respond stems from the first post. By all means you have a right to be angry at what your government does that you don't agree with and post that here but I think you need to calm it down a little. You are studying law and I hope you don't approach your subjects the same way as you approach things here.

I am passionate about this issue.Illegal Immigration is one of the real long term threats to America, economically, culturally, as well as national security wise.My posts have rational analysis, I have stated many times the damage illegal immigration does and how it is wrong to allow criminals to be rewarded or put ahead of actual citizens.I am sure my passion comes across in my posts and that is okay with me.Nothing wrong with actually caring about something that is harming this nation and will harm us much more if we do not get it under control while we can.

The personal attacks are usually from Left wingers who like to pull the race card and say I am being racist, bigoted etc when it is simply not true.I find that highly insulting and aggravating because it detracts from the discussion.

[Zachstar]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

I am passionate about this issue.Illegal Immigration is one of the real long term threats to America, economically, culturally, as well as national security wise.My posts have rational analysis, I have stated many times the damage illegal immigration does and how it is wrong to allow criminals to be rewarded or put ahead of actual citizens.I am sure my passion comes across in my posts and that is okay with me.Nothing wrong with actually caring about something that is harming this nation and will harm us much more if we do not get it under control while we can.

The personal attacks are usually from Left wingers who like to pull the race card and say I am being racist, bigoted etc when it is simply not true.I find that highly insulting and aggravating because it detracts from the discussion.

Your posts are full of bigoted remarks. Even when almost everyone here IS for Immigration changes.

Have you not noted how I want a mess of drones on the border as an effective way to catch groups of em? I want TOUGH new measures against companies that hire em. Etc...

But when you claim they bring Disease like something out of a history book. That is crossing the line by any measurement. Diseases get transfered globally due to air and sea travel. That is why there are measures taken to try to combat the effects. Illegal's have NOTHING to do with that. They catch the same crap everyone does. So putting that in there is just about as bigoted as it gets.

I am not DUMB enough to think that illegials will join JUST to get citizenship. JUST to vote only dem. Saying otherwise would be calling military vets mindless and clueless. They will vote on the issues that matter to them just like EVERYONE. If they vote dem it is because Repubs have voted against them or their family's future.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

Your posts are full of bigoted remarks. Even when almost everyone here IS for Immigration changes.

Have you not noted how I want a mess of drones on the border as an effective way to catch groups of em? I want TOUGH new measures against companies that hire em. Etc...

But when you claim they bring Disease like something out of a history book. That is crossing the line by any measurement. Diseases get transfered globally due to air and sea travel. That is why there are measures taken to try to combat the effects. Illegal's have NOTHING to do with that. They catch the same crap everyone does. So putting that in there is just about as bigoted as it gets.

I am not DUMB enough to think that illegials will join JUST to get citizenship. JUST to vote only dem. Saying otherwise would be calling military vets mindless and clueless. They will vote on the issues that matter to them just like EVERYONE. If they vote dem it is because Repubs have voted against them or their family's future.

First of all I did not say they bring disease, that was someone else.However, since you raised the issue, they can and some do bring disease, as can any immigrants who are not checked.Why do you think people had to be inspected at ellis island ? Europeans brought a ton of disease that killed many of the native populations.I do recall that the current strain of swine flu was said to have originated in Mexico.Hmm wonder how many illegals brought it across the border? Perfectly valid, non bigoted point but certain members like to play the race card to distract from the real issue.All humans spread disease but most illegals are usually poor, uneducated with little access to healthcare so are not going to get checked before crossing.



I rarely actually address illegal mexican immigrants, I am talking about all illegals.All illegals aggravate me, it shows a fundamental disrespect for America, her actual citizens who have a right to be here and our laws.That is my problem.I could care less if you are mexican, chinese, european etc, come here legally and if you dont then you need to go back and should not get anything from the US other than a ride back.

Illegals would join mainly to get citizenship, also college paid for as well as "three hots and cot" in addition to all the other benefits.They would not join to vote Dem but the Dems are pushing this in order to pander to hispanics and the loyalty this would inspire from many who would become citizens, dam the effects on this nation as long as the Dems get to stay in and implement their far left agenda.

Yes the Republican Party will prob not do things in illegal immigrants best interest, you know why? Their job just is to do things in best interest of this country and its actual citizens who have the rights and are entitled, not some illegal.Dems have shown they believe their job is to cater to criminals with things like AZ lawsuit etc.