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Old 09-19-10, 12:01 AM   #1
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Maybe because in the years before WW2 many groups were using similar tactics to attack the Jews. It seems moderate before the death camps.

So yes if you feel such way about Islam I am equally able to say you read Hitler's book before breakfast.
How can you people be so skewed?

It is Islam that compares to NS as an ideology.

National Socialism and Anti-Semitism in the Arab World

http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-kuntzel-s05.htm
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Old 09-19-10, 12:14 AM   #2
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...even assuming that the institution of Islam is as bad as you make it out to be, and your solution to it is not "final", then what? If this doesn't resemble the logic behind the Holocaust (although I think in some regard it does), then it certainly resembles the logic behind the internment of ethnic Japanese in Allied countries during WWII. Or the ethnic Ukrainians during WWI. Or Soviet deportations of various ethnic groups under Stalin.

But those were necessary to combat threats too, right?
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Old 09-19-10, 07:21 AM   #3
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...even assuming that the institution of Islam is as bad as you make it out to be, and your solution to it is not "final", then what? If this doesn't resemble the logic behind the Holocaust (although I think in some regard it does), then it certainly resembles the logic behind the internment of ethnic Japanese in Allied countries during WWII. Or the ethnic Ukrainians during WWI. Or Soviet deportations of various ethnic groups under Stalin.

But those were necessary to combat threats too, right?
Enforce our secular societies and rule of law without hesitation and abandon multiculturalism as an ideology, demanding full integration to our core values.

Present our objections and criticism openly and with vigor to muslim communities and nations about any possible issues.

Demand muslim nations that support and endorce terrorism to cease or be open to retaliatory measures ranging from economic to military actions, saudi arabia should be on top of that list.

We can start discussing about the exact policies when we get past the debate should something even change in our outlook.
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Enforce our secular societies and rule of law without hesitation and abandon multiculturalism as an ideology, demanding full integration to our core values.

Present our objections and criticism openly and with vigor to muslim communities and nations about any possible issues.

Demand muslim nations that support and endorce terrorism to cease or be open to retaliatory measures ranging from economic to military actions, saudi arabia should be on top of that list.

We can start discussing about the exact policies when we get past the debate should something even change in our outlook.
Have fun starting World War III.
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Old 09-19-10, 07:40 AM   #5
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Have fun starting World War III.

We are perfectly in our rights to do this, if that leads to WW3 then it clearly is something we just have to fight then.

If someone perceives use of only diplomacy and dialog as a sign of weakness, then it just wont work, any escalation of a conflict is then of their own doing.
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Old 09-19-10, 07:57 AM   #6
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We are perfectly in our rights to do this, if that leads to WW3 then it clearly is something we just have to fight then.
Who gave you those rights? Just curious.
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Old 09-19-10, 08:05 AM   #7
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Who gave you those rights? Just curious.
Twisting a little are we?
Well who gave you the right to ruin our civilisation and future just to feel warm and fluffy from inside and because you dont think anything is worth fighting for?
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Old 09-19-10, 09:10 AM   #8
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http://grendelreport.posterous.com/m...mes-are-increa

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(...)Since 2001, hate crimes against Muslims have decreased significantly, according to FBI statistics. After 2002, hate crimes against Muslims have not risen above 13 percent of all anti-religious crimes, and the most recent data from 2008 calculates them at 7.8 percent.

Despite this evidence to the contrary, each year has brought claims by prominent Muslim leaders that anti-Islamic hate crimes are actually growing – with the allegations usually coming right after a terrorist attack or at a time when Muslim leaders are lobbying on political issues.
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The statistics reflect a disconnect between the assertions of increased Islamic hate crimes and reality. Nine years after the Sept. 11 attacks, activists and the media are using allegations of anti-Muslim prejudice to distract from problematic community issues like Islamic terrorism.
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Monthly Jihad Report

August, 2010

Jihad Attacks: 196

Countries: 23

Religions: 5

Dead Bodies: 811

Critically Injured: 1602


Number of deadly Islamic terror attacks since 9/11 2001: 16067
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Could not they be here a bit longer lines,
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How can you people be so skewed?

It is Islam that compares to NS as an ideology.

National Socialism and Anti-Semitism in the Arab World

http://www.jcpa.org/phas/phas-kuntzel-s05.htm
A muslim group paid to build religious buildings for the Jewish faith to build peace and understanding. So as long as ANYONE treats subsim to a almost daily barrage of Anti-Islam bigotry. I will consider them to be active readers of "My Struggle" Hell I will fully admit I thought of that one because I know he is from Germany. Why not? He paints an entire class of people as something they are not. Perhaps a little taste of his own bullcrap will help him understand.
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