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Old 09-17-10, 01:08 PM   #1
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I know that none of them were ever completed. However, I did not realize that their beam was not the same as the 41. I just figured that it would be an interesting short term addition since we cannot add other boats right now.

Actually, it will not be too simple, even using the same 3D model. Because the existing GR2s have references to the specific .sim(and other controller files) for that boat. In other words, you will have to hex edit those references to new files in order to change the stats for the new boat independently of the original sub used.

Or at least I am pretty sure it will work like that.

Well, I never "cloned" a submarine before, but, as far as I can tell, it shuldn't be very difficult... Just cloning ALL files and tweak the new "copies" with the correct values (mass, speed etc) so they reflect the correct VIIC 42 performance. I guess this trick has been done already in sh4 a couple of times at least.
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Old 09-17-10, 04:43 PM   #2
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Well, I never "cloned" a submarine before, but, as far as I can tell, it shuldn't be very difficult... Just cloning ALL files and tweak the new "copies" with the correct values (mass, speed etc) so they reflect the correct VIIC 42 performance. I guess this trick has been done already in sh4 a couple of times at least.
You can try that, but I am not sure that it will work. I believe that the .GR2 have exact file references, and they will just keep using the old controller files from the VIIC/41 instead of the cloned ones in the new folders.

Like I said though, I don't know for sure, that is just how it would seem like it should work. Someone should go ahead and try the easy cloning method and see if changes made to the cloned controller files show up in game.
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Old 09-18-10, 03:54 AM   #3
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You can try that, but I am not sure that it will work. I believe that the .GR2 have exact file references, and they will just keep using the old controller files from the VIIC/41 instead of the cloned ones in the new folders.

Like I said though, I don't know for sure, that is just how it would seem like it should work. Someone should go ahead and try the easy cloning method and see if changes made to the cloned controller files show up in game.
Indeed sh4 didn't have gr2 files...and I guess this time will be harder. Are you sure it's the gr2 file that contains all the "links" to the other files (sim, zon, cam etc)? Unfortunatly, I don't have sh5 installed currently...
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Old 09-18-10, 07:49 AM   #4
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Indeed sh4 didn't have gr2 files...and I guess this time will be harder. Are you sure it's the gr2 file that contains all the "links" to the other files (sim, zon, cam etc)? Unfortunatly, I don't have sh5 installed currently...
I cannot find references to the controller files anywhere actually. I even searched the .GR2 files in a hex editor, and was unable to find any file names of the controller files.

Perhaps that means the game will just pull the necessary files from whatever folder you have it directed to for the 3D model(that is specified in the .cfg). That would mean you were right about the cloning process. It would be great if that is how it works.
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Old 09-18-10, 12:14 PM   #5
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If this is true as it sounds it is, a Type VIIC/42 may be in order

edit: I'd like to sink the tonnage that is reqd for the last mission but getting out of the Bay of Biscay is proving quite difficult, so I may try moving the last mission to the pacific ocean until further notice.
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