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Old 09-17-10, 11:16 AM   #1
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If Maxine Waters is not considered far left I dont know who would be.
I'll say it, Barack Obama.
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Old 09-17-10, 12:36 PM   #2
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Good luck, there is not much to add here another one that it is a problematic situation that they have
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The American threshold for loss of personal liberty is perhaps lower than in the rest of the world, so yeah, our definition of "left" is different. The US Constitution is a center-right (in modern US terminology, useless as left/right actually is anyway) document. It has to be "interpreted" to read the American left way.

Oddly enough, at the time it was pretty radical.


Sort of on-topic, the tea party is certainly fubaring the right. Look at Delaware. They gave a total loon the nod, and basically just lost the party the Senate.
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Sort of on-topic, the tea party is certainly fubaring the right. Look at Delaware. They gave a total loon the nod, and basically just lost the party the Senate.

I originally thought the same as you. But now I think in the long run it sends a message to soft Rep's and RINOs every where as to how they should run to win. To lose one seat to send that message is worth the loss. It also sends a message to liberal/progressive Democrats and shifts them to the right.
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I originally thought the same as you. But now I think in the long run it sends a message to soft Rep's and RINOs every where as to how they should run to win. To lose one seat to send that message is worth the loss. It also sends a message to liberal/progressive Democrats and shifts them to the right.
There is no such thing as "sending a message." There is winning, and losing. That's it. The "send a message" has been what the losertarians have said for years. They are meaningless as a party, except possibly a spoiler—making things worse.

Eye on the ball. The Tea Party wants to get rid of things that have already been jammed down our throats; "we'll have to pass it so you can see what's in it." Controlling the Senate would have helped (though without a solid 60 votes, that's not that critical).
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^And I thought I was to the right politically.^

Not that it is a bad thing.
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Old 09-17-10, 01:35 PM   #7
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When Senator Mukowski (R) of Alaska and Representative Castle (R) of Delaware won't call to congratualte or support there primary opponents both Repiublicans it tells you something about their loyalties. Doesn't it.
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