The motivation of a strange - and alienating - president

[GoldenRivet]

Originally Posted by AngusJS

You're right, because the President of the United States usually intervenes in matters on the municipal level.

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

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'Speaking truth to power' becomes problematic when you are the power.

When the party of 'no' speaks truth to power they are obstructionist. It must be a difficult pivot for Barack Obama.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

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Beergate!!!!

Then why hasn't he given any support to the REbuilding of a Greek Orthodox church that was flattened by the falling towers? The Greeks have been stonewalled in their efforts to rebuild while the President of the USA comes out in favor of a mosque?

I guess their religious freedom isn't as important as that of the Muslims eh?

Stonewalled? they entered into a land swap deal and have been bogged down in paperwork and negotiations with the two other parties ever since.
Are you suggesting the president should enter into a real estate transaction on the behalf of one party in a three way deal?
Though of course your President didn't come out in favour of the mosque did he, but I suppose you somehow forgot that little detail in a very short space of time.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Though of course your President didn't come out in favour of the mosque did he, but I suppose you somehow forgot that little detail in a very short space of time.

But he did come out on the side of the mosque before a group of muslims in a dinner before Ramadan. The next day he did the Obama shuffle reguarding the wisdom of building the mosque.

It is that very shuffle which makes him unworthy and not capable to hold his office beyond the 2012 election. Even the Euro's are off put by Obama.

But he did come out on the side of the mosque before a group of muslims in a dinner before Ramadan

Errrrrrr....no he didn't.
He made a statement of fact.

The next day he did the Obama shuffle reguarding the wisdom of building the mosque.

He made another statement because a wide section of the population is too dumb to understand a simple statement of fact and needed it spelt out very slowly in big letters.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Errrrrrr....no he didn't.
He made a statement of fact.


He made another statement because a wide section of the population is too dumb to understand a simple statement of fact and needed it spelt out very slowly in big letters.

So he supported the building of the mosque. Statement of opinion. Right to worship is protected from US government intervention. Not the right to build a church/ mosque. There is no such right.

His next statement put into question if he supported the wisdom of building the mosque. Another statement of opinion by the POTUS.

It is this undue wabble, flip-flop, which is why Obama will not last beyond 2012.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Errrrrrr....no he didn't.
He made a statement of fact.


He made another statement because a wide section of the population is too dumb to understand a simple statement of fact and needed it spelt out very slowly in big letters.

He supported the mosque under the Constitiion and the ideals of freedom of religion. Statement of fact in the same breath when he said it was he was not going to talk about the wisdom of building the mosque on this particular site.

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

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Except Gates is a friend of Obama's, and Beergate didn't occur until after the arrest became a big deal. Indeed, the only reason Obama got involved at all was because he was asked about it at a news conference.

If enough sturm und drang is kicked up about the Orthodox church business, he might talk about that, too. But this is the first I had heard of it, anyway.

Originally Posted by AngusJS

Indeed, the only reason Obama got involved at all was because he was asked about it at a news conference.

And he had to respond? No, he didn't have to respond. When he did he acted stupidly, as evidenced by the Beer Summit.

Obama is an idiot by nature, and a fool at heart, who wishes the world is what it is not. He is a leftist progressive in the John Silas Reed mold of simlpistic, foolishment.

So he supported the building of the mosque.

Show that statement.

Oh yeah there was a whole topic about it and he hadn't

He supported the mosque under the Constitiion and the ideals of freedom of religion.

So the president supported the constitution. wow
Would you have preferred if he had opposed the constitution and freedom?

Statement of fact in the same breath when he said it was he was not going to talk about the wisdom of building the mosque on this particular site.

So he didn't support building a mosque there then did he.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Show that statement.

Oh yeah there was a whole topic about it and he hadn't


So the president supported the constitution. wow
Would you have preferred if he had opposed the constitution and freedom?


So he didn't support building a mosque there then did he.

All fine and good. your spin isn't lost on most folks. It is why the November elections will be a referendum on Barack Obama himself.

[AngusJS]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

Obama is an idiot by nature, and a fool at heart, who wishes the world is what it is not. He is a leftist progressive in the John Silas Reed mold of simlpistic, foolishment.

Oh no, not simplistic, foolishment! You take that back right now!

All fine and good. your spin isn't lost on most folks.

Show the statement.

It is why the November elections will be a referendum on Barack Obama himself.

You mean people are too dumb to understand that the presidential elections are the presidential elections

[bradclark1]

Originally Posted by August

That's a common Dem tactic. They believe that opposition to their grand design just has to be racist, every time.

No it's a common Publican tactic. Everytime