Thai navy joins pirate patrol

I guess Thailand Thaied the knot with the other pirate hunters?

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by diver

Same as the US OHPs except ours now have VLS for ESSM and also fire SM2s out of the Mk 13.

Looks you folks added a FLIR above the bridge too.
Are they the long hull or short hull? Long hull has two hanger doors and carries the Seahawk, short has one and carries the Seasprite.

Originally Posted by Rilder

I guess Thailand Thaied the knot with the other pirate hunters?

And to think they got together after just one night in Bangkok...

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Looks you folks added a FLIR above the bridge too.
Are they the long hull or short hull? Long hull has two hanger doors and carries the Seahawk, short has one and carries the Seasprite.


And to think they got together after just one night in Bangkok...

Long hull two hangers to accommodate the Seahawk. (Note pic below is a sister ship of the Melbourne, the Canberra).


Unfunnily we bought Sea Sprites for our Anzac Frigates, but not one of them made it inot operation despite millions of our peso's wasted.

[CaptainMattJ.]

Originally Posted by TarJak

Long hull two hangers to accommodate the Seahawk. (Note pic below is a sister ship of the Melbourne, the Canberra).


Unfunnily we bought Sea Sprites for our Anzac Frigates, but not one of them made it inot operation despite millions of our peso's wasted.

man frigates are tiny. WWII is 1000 times more interesting then modern warfare. all it is now is input coordinates and press a button and you have a lot of dead people.hows that interesting?

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

man frigates are tiny.

Actually the FFG-7 is 4,100 tons. Roughly twice the displacement as a WWII era Fletcher class destroyer...

WWII is 1000 times more interesting then modern warfare. all it is now is input coordinates and press a button and you have a lot of dead people.hows that interesting?

Interesting part is finding those coordinates without giving yours to the other guy.

[Gerald]

Length: 208m
Displacement: 14,000 tonnes
Crew: 125-150
Speed: 30 knots
Hull: Steel
Cost: $2.8bn (£1.5bn)
Replaces: Arleigh Burke destroyers

[TLAM Strike]

Originally Posted by Vendor

Length: 208m
Displacement: 14,000 tonnes
Crew: 125-150
Speed: 30 knots
Hull: Steel
Cost: $2.8bn (£1.5bn)
Replaces: Arleigh Burke destroyers

Naw its not going to Replace the Burke just complement it. The Zumwalt class lacks the extensive radar systems of the DDG-51s or Ticos. (well it is extensive... extensively incompatible with current SAMs.)

The Ticos and Burke Flt IIs will be the AAW and TBM defense platforms while the DDX will be the shore bombardment asset (perhaps with those long range Rail Guns eventually but until then 60 mile range 6 in guns and Tomahawks).

Assuming it doesn't get the axe, the costs are expected to top 4 billion USD...

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

so? tonnage doesnt designate length. Its a Fat stubby ship then.

Quite a bit longer too...
FFG-7: 453 feet
Fletcher: 376.5 feet

[CaptainMattJ.]

Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Actually the FFG-7 is 4,100 tons. Roughly twice the displacement as a WWII era Fletcher class destroyer...


Interesting part is finding those coordinates without giving yours to the other guy.

so? tonnage doesnt designate length. Its a Fat stubby ship then.

[Gerald]

[diver]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

man frigates are tiny. WWII is 1000 times more interesting then modern warfare. all it is now is input coordinates and press a button and you have a lot of dead people.hows that interesting?

Umm, I assure you it is A LOT more complicatied than that.

[CaptainMattJ.]

Originally Posted by diver

Umm, I assure you it is A LOT more complicatied than that.

of course. And? still isnt interesting to have guided Nukes and a sub having more firepower then all bombs dropped in WWII. seriously isnt very fun having missle wars with people 500 miles away as opposed to up close and personal outdated FPS good ol fashion Cannon battle.

[TLAM Strike]

Up close on personal battles will be even more common today. With the proliferation of armed small craft used by groups like the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps Navy and Somali Pirates engagements with 70 mile range Harpoons will be less common and engagements with 10 mile range cannons (or 1 mile range machine guns) far more common.

[diver]

Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

of course. And? still isnt interesting to have guided Nukes and a sub having more firepower then all bombs dropped in WWII. seriously isnt very fun having missle wars with people 500 miles away as opposed to up close and personal outdated FPS good ol fashion Cannon battle.

Well it isn't supposed to be 'fun'.

And as TLAM Strike says, battling an assymetric attack by pirates or extremists or Iranian boghammers would be a very 'whites of the eyeballs' experience. I promise you when you are facing those kinds of threats all the modern firepower in the world wont eliminate your fear.

Just as Javelin missiles havnt stopped soldiers having to do nasty up close work, Harpoon missiles havnt seen the end of naval gunnery (of all calibres). I'd argue that the 5 inch mount is still the primary weapon of western escorts, except perhaps the 12.7mm.