[Project] The Last PC!

Jan Kyster · 09-10-10, 06:15 PM

4 hours later with Silent Hunter:

gpu max 75 -> cools to 44
cpu max 58 -> 44
MB max 48 -> 43

We're not unhappy, but can't help contemplating water... maybe something on the outside of the building...

_

Jan Kyster · 09-11-10, 08:04 PM

Just reporting!

But back to square one here! Desperately fighting facts... damn you, truth!

There is simply not enough airflow through the case. There are no stability issues, but anything above 75 degree is not acceptable.

New Fractal Design case has been ordered. Again!

As a first step, then probably top it up with water cooling. We'll see...

Ahh, the waste!

Sailor Steve · 09-11-10, 10:50 PM

Dang! And that looked so good too! I have never considered a 'flat' case, and you had me interested. I'm looking at building soon, or at least having one built. Thought this one looked kind of cool:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811103011

Arclight · 09-12-10, 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan Kyster

Just reporting!

But back to square one here! Desperately fighting facts... damn you, truth!

There is simply not enough airflow through the case. There are no stability issues, but anything above 75 degree is not acceptable.

New Fractal Design case has been ordered. Again!

As a first step, then probably top it up with water cooling. We'll see...

Ahh, the waste!

It's a dual-GPU card. Those temps are to be expected.

Running 85C is normal for 5970.

Jan Kyster · 09-12-10, 09:00 AM

Yeah, 85 degree with standard cooler, but not with the ArcTic cooler: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coo...reme-5970.html

Alas, the cramped desktop case doesn't allow enough air to pass through it to see the full potential of the cooler...
The scenario was lurking in the back of the head, but ignorance's a bliss at least as long as it lasts...

Now the case Steve shows, that's an entire different matter! Looks very efficient! And a nice pricing!

Once the components have been transferred to new case, I'll show the readings... stand by!

Arclight · 09-12-10, 09:10 AM

What about using some proper paste, instead of those thermal pads? Never been impressed by those.

Lot cheaper than a new case and whatnot.

...

(sorry) And get a decent cooler for that bloody CPU, seriously.

Jan Kyster · 09-12-10, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arclight

What about using some proper paste, instead of those thermal pads? Never been impressed by those.

Lot cheaper than a new case and whatnot.

...

(sorry) And get a decent cooler for that bloody CPU, seriously.

Hey! It's a genuine Intel cooler!

No seriously, that was my initial thought as well.
But it's actually 1½ times larger than the "normal" Intel coolers and as these normally runs very silent, I wanted to give it a try.
It is doing a very fine job.

Until the new case arrives, I've removed the lid of the case and temps are much better now.
Cpu max. 60 and Gpu max 70 degree... even after a couple of hours SH IV.

Also agree on the thermal tape - but once settled in, they too works well.
And they ensures a thermal contact to the heatsink for all components, even the ones that may be a bit "mis-aligned".

Gotta love those weekend-working internet stores! Case should arrive tomorrow!

Arclight · 09-13-10, 04:16 AM

Actually, for a graphics card those pads might be better, yeah. At least to avoid something not making contact. I did replace the pad for the GPU with grease on my 8800; shaved off some 5C in idle, probably more under load.

My point about the Intel cooler is that it creates turbulence. Air is forced down and out in all directions as it is forced out the sink. A good portion of the hot air trying to move towards those exhaust fans will get drawn into the cooler again. If you can get a small tower-design in there, you can have the air move through more cleanly, straight towards exhaust fans.

Anyway, good luck with the new case.

09-11-10, 10:50 PM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Dang! And that looked so good too! I have never considered a 'flat' case, and you had me interested. I'm looking at building soon, or at least having one built. Thought this one looked kind of cool: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811103011 __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-12-10, 09:10 AM	#6
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	What about using some proper paste, instead of those thermal pads? Never been impressed by those. Lot cheaper than a new case and whatnot. ... (sorry) And get a decent cooler for that bloody CPU, seriously. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

09-13-10, 04:16 AM	#8
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Actually, for a graphics card those pads might be better, yeah. At least to avoid something not making contact. I did replace the pad for the GPU with grease on my 8800; shaved off some 5C in idle, probably more under load. My point about the Intel cooler is that it creates turbulence. Air is forced down and out in all directions as it is forced out the sink. A good portion of the hot air trying to move towards those exhaust fans will get drawn into the cooler again. If you can get a small tower-design in there, you can have the air move through more cleanly, straight towards exhaust fans. Anyway, good luck with the new case. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

09-10-10, 06:15 PM	#1
Jan Kyster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,151 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	4 hours later with Silent Hunter: gpu max 75 -> cools to 44 cpu max 58 -> 44 MB max 48 -> 43 We're not unhappy, but can't help contemplating water... maybe something on the outside of the building... _

09-11-10, 08:04 PM	#2
Jan Kyster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,151 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	Just reporting! But back to square one here! Desperately fighting facts... damn you, truth! There is simply not enough airflow through the case. There are no stability issues, but anything above 75 degree is not acceptable. New Fractal Design case has been ordered. Again! As a first step, then probably top it up with water cooling. We'll see... Ahh, the waste!

09-12-10, 09:00 AM	#5
Jan Kyster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 1,151 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	Yeah, 85 degree with standard cooler, but not with the ArcTic cooler: http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coo...reme-5970.html Alas, the cramped desktop case doesn't allow enough air to pass through it to see the full potential of the cooler... The scenario was lurking in the back of the head, but ignorance's a bliss at least as long as it lasts... Now the case Steve shows, that's an entire different matter! Looks very efficient! And a nice pricing! Once the components have been transferred to new case, I'll show the readings... stand by!