This game is tough

Gibus · 09-06-10, 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tater

Except he said he was playing RSRDC. All the stock scripted stuff is gone.

Hello,
About RSRD, will you allow me a question?
Take, for example the Battle of the Philippines in Palawan Passage.
My question is: since the order of battle has been rewritten, why not have gone further in historical reality?
Let me explain:
In RSRD, there were 11 destroyers Asashio the passage of Palawan. In reality, they were 15.
Why is there only Asashio while there were also Kagero and Yugumo and that these units are available in RSRD, I think?
In RSRD, Kurita's fleet is organized into two columns spaced 1,000 meters. In reality, Kurita had training at night on two columns spaced 4,000 meters. Between the two columns (left column: Atago, Takao, Chokai, Nagato, right column: Myoko, Haguro, Maya, Yamato, Musashi) 3 destroyers. The other destroyers guarding the flanks, was in no protection in front.
Kongo and two cruisers escorted by destroyers after 6000 meters back.
Use the "Random Group system" does not respect the historical reality that seems to be the vocation of RSRD.

I hope my bad English does not misrepresented my thinking.

Gibus

tater · 09-06-10, 09:37 AM

Random groups in SH4 have a max spacing of 2000m, and spacings are all even in both directions.

In addition, the ships maintain spacings regardless of terrain, so if they go into any tight spaces near islands, larger spacing might present a problem (getting into or out of port, for example).

Regarding the variant DDs, I'm unsure. I'm actually the one who made them, perhaps they presented an issue at some point not worth tracking down (every new node ID added has the potential to CTD the game). That said, Kagero and Yugumo are only a little different than Asashio (AA guns and platforms, for Kagero the torpedo reload position).

It would be straightforward to add the proper DDs to specific groups. Find the references to Asashio, and replace however many with Yugumo or kagero (on the disabled mod, obviously).

I'm goin' down · 09-06-10, 10:23 PM

Perhaps Gibus' post re the inacurrate ships in RSRDC should be directed at the RSRDC threat where captain lurker can offer his advice or opinions? I was at the Battle of the Coral Sea and his two Jap carriers appeared below Guadalcanal on the date, time and course specified--accompanied by one or two dds.

Gibus · 09-07-10, 01:38 AM

Sorry.

WernherVonTrapp · 09-07-10, 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gibus

Why is there only Asashio while there were also Kagero and Yugumo and that these units are available in RSRD, I think?

The IJN Kagero and Yugumo class destroyers were based on the design of the Asashio class, each with successive improvements upon the other. The Kagero would have, basically, looked quite similar to the Asashio, apart from these improvements. The Yugumo class were modified versions of the Kagero and as a result, would also look like the Asashio.

tater · 09-07-10, 08:14 AM

They do, one simple difference the players would see is the ability for different DDs with the same cfgdate to have slightly different armament (including DCs).

Not a huge change, but a little variability.

09-06-10, 10:23 PM	#3
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	RSRDC Perhaps Gibus' post re the inacurrate ships in RSRDC should be directed at the RSRDC threat where captain lurker can offer his advice or opinions? I was at the Battle of the Coral Sea and his two Jap carriers appeared below Guadalcanal on the date, time and course specified--accompanied by one or two dds.

09-07-10, 01:38 AM	#4
Gibus Ensign Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: France Posts: 223 Downloads: 42 Uploads: 0	Sorry. __________________ "Pacific is a big ocean. You don't have to find the enemy if you don't want to." Dick O'Kane

09-06-10, 09:37 AM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Random groups in SH4 have a max spacing of 2000m, and spacings are all even in both directions. In addition, the ships maintain spacings regardless of terrain, so if they go into any tight spaces near islands, larger spacing might present a problem (getting into or out of port, for example). Regarding the variant DDs, I'm unsure. I'm actually the one who made them, perhaps they presented an issue at some point not worth tracking down (every new node ID added has the potential to CTD the game). That said, Kagero and Yugumo are only a little different than Asashio (AA guns and platforms, for Kagero the torpedo reload position). It would be straightforward to add the proper DDs to specific groups. Find the references to Asashio, and replace however many with Yugumo or kagero (on the disabled mod, obviously).

09-07-10, 08:14 AM	#6
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	They do, one simple difference the players would see is the ability for different DDs with the same cfgdate to have slightly different armament (including DCs). Not a huge change, but a little variability.