Should I purchase SH V? - Page 2

JScones · 09-01-10, 06:03 AM

And the winner of the "most number of references to Ducimus in a single post" award is... pocatellodave!!!

Seriously, here's what you do: point out SH5 to your significant other, just the cover will do. Do so on-line or in a store, doesn't matter. Mumble something about it being that game you heard about. Then forget about it.

If your significant other follows the Subsim trend, then in a week or two you'll be the proud owner of a copy of SH5. As you didn't buy it yourself, you'll no longer have the quandary about whether to buy it or not. And, as a bonus, if it sux, just blame your partner.

JU_88 · 09-01-10, 07:19 AM

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Rockin Robbins · 09-01-10, 09:17 AM

Ditto what JU88 says, plus more details like the ability without a $10,000 license to make new ship models to add to the five targets available. AND the ability to lend, give away or sell the game on the used market. But that comes under Steve's DRM situation, which bothers me too.

It's all fixable if Ubi wants to fix it. But they have no way to monetize the solution so the solution will not come from them, at least not soon.

It sure is a good thing we have SH3 and SH4. It makes SH5 much less aggravating because we have other great World War II submarine simulators that work. I find myself just not caring whether SH5 gets fixed or not.

09-01-10, 10:48 AM

IMO buy the game when and IF you find it for around $20, i wouldnt recommend paying more based on my opinion of how unfinished and arcade like the game is in its stock form.

yes mods do a lot for improving the game greatly but that doesnt mean you should give UBI more money (or heaven forbid, full price

) just because modders working for free on their own have made the game better.

pocatellodave · 09-01-10, 11:03 AM

The bad outweighs the good right now.I have one sim that has the DRM thing.I don't like it,but it really doesn't effect game play.Apparently the DRM issue has big problems in SH V,and keeps some players from playing the sim,and that's not good.The issue with the hard code bothers me the most.As it's un-fixable,and the modders can only do so much.If one has SH III and SH IV,it's hard to put them away for SH V,that is flawed and it may stay that way with the hard code issues.The 2nd patch concerns me,as if I understand correctly,the team has been pulled off SH V,for another sim,and maybe patch #2 is vaporware.I'm sorry about Ducimus,but I respect his wisdom,and Steve I respect yours as well,but I think I have the right to ask questions on the forum w/o being chided for asking in the first place.i have listened to the responces,and made my decision to wait before I purchase SH V,to see if it becomes worthy of buying.
Thanks to all for the help.
pocatellodave

Kapitanleutnant · 09-01-10, 12:04 PM

Yes you should buy a copy of SH5. Then take the disc, nail it to a frisbee, and fling it over a rainbow.

09-01-10, 12:10 PM

I don't know if this will mean anything to you but this is how I feel.
When I leave port in SH3 GWX and I see the bands playing, nurses throwing flowers, planes flying overhead and traffic in the harbour you realise it's all about the atmosphere. Even the inside of the sub in SH3 is more appealing to me despite all the additional polygons in the SH5 interior, the problem is that most of the interior is a walk through once experience as there's nothing else to do and I play with a GTX480 were both games play maxed at 60FPS.
BUT this was all created by modders and maybe modders will get SH5 like this too hopefully.
I wish I could mod myself but with a wife and 2 kids and a career I don't have the time or patience, that's why I love their work so much. Because I know how hard it is to dedicate free time to doing the work they do.
SH5 is a decent game and I really do hope that the modders have the time and patience to get it up were SH3 is. If you can get it cheap enough then it's worth the admission fee alone, just don't expect SH3 or SH4 fully modded.
But then why would you when you consider SH3 and 4 when first released.

pocatellodave · 09-01-10, 01:10 PM

You can pick up SH V for 20 bucks,and that price will keep dropping I'm sure.We can all hope SH V is fixable,because in all honesty,pc games are becoming rarer all the time.SH III is the epitomy of what the modders can do to make a sim a classic.Hats off to Subsim,and the modders.

SteelViking · 09-01-10, 04:15 PM

The question about fixing the problems in SH5 is not a question of if, but a question of when. I myself have not expected one more ounce of help from Ubi since patch 1.2 came out, but you don't see me giving up do you? Give us time, and everything can be solved.

Reece · 09-01-10, 07:46 PM

I was perusing on eBay when some how I stumbled on this bid for SH5, I looked it over and it is certainly genuine, since you have a key and can register online and the seller was reputable with 100% positive feedback. Now I had a laugh and thought I'd place a bid on it for $5, it also had postage for $7, but never once did I think I would win it at this price, bidding was to end in the early hours of the morning (around 5.30 am), next day I checked the emails to find I had won it for US $10.23, AU $11.50 delivered (by registered mail no less)!

Well UBI didn't make much profit from me!!

but now the "I'll never buy SH5 crowd" is going to have a field day with me!

My God, what have I done!!

Ducimus · 09-01-10, 08:45 PM

Jumpin Jebus on a pogo stock.

Look, im flattered some people think so highly of me, but seriously:
I'm just a guy like anyone else here., I do not know it all, I do not have an authoritative opinion, which is just that, an opinion. I put my pants on one leg at a time.

I'm just a guy, who had way too much time on his hands, that often enough gets really snide and sarchastic. I have my moments were im totally talking out of my ass, and I have my moments were i'm really rough around the edges. Any of the forum old timers could tell you this. Hell, ive probably had administrative action taken upon me for longer then most people here. Including Dowly. Again, any of the forum old timers could tell you this. I'm no saint, I just have a big freaking mouth. That is all.

Sailor Steve · 09-01-10, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

I have my moments were im totally talking out of my ass,and I have my moments were i'm really rough around the edges.

And you have moments when you are spot on, and make everybody else feel inadequate. That's why in spite of any lip I give you you have my absolute respect. Anyone who disagrees just needs to read the "A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War" thread.

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I'm no saint, I just have a big freaking mouth. That is all.

Which makes you "just like any other man, only more so."

JScones · 09-02-10, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelViking

The question about fixing the problems in SH5 is not a question of if, but a question of when. I myself have not expected one more ounce of help from Ubi since patch 1.2 came out, but you don't see me giving up do you? Give us time, and everything can be solved.

I admire your conviction.

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Originally Posted by Reece

I was perusing on eBay when some how I stumbled on this bid for SH5, I looked it over and it is certainly genuine, since you have a key and can register online and the seller was reputable with 100% positive feedback. Now I had a laugh and thought I'd place a bid on it for $5, it also had postage for $7, but never once did I think I would win it at this price, bidding was to end in the early hours of the morning (around 5.30 am), next day I checked the emails to find I had won it for US $10.23, AU $11.50 delivered (by registered mail no less)!

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Well UBI didn't make much profit from me!!

but now the "I'll never buy SH5 crowd" is going to have a field day with me!

My God, what have I done!!

Given the seller's location, I'm not sure Ubisoft made *any* profit from you.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

And you have moments when you are spot on, and make everybody else feel inadequate. That's why in spite of any lip I give you you have my absolute respect. Anyone who disagrees just needs to read the "A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War" thread.

Which makes you "just like any other man, only more so."

I consider it conviction. Forming your beliefs and sticking by them, without sitting on the fence and worrying that you might upset someone. The former commands respect, even when in disagreement, the latter apathy.

For example, JU and I have numerous stoushes, but I'd still buy him a beer, because even though he's always wrong (that's a joke - I'm an INTJ and that is my "prayer") he's not afraid to "put it out there". But those who "don't want to offend the devs" or "don't want to upset whoever", meh...

09-02-10, 02:50 AM

At that price you will get alot from the game and yes, I agree, I admire steelviking for what he does and plans to do.
Hopefully himslf along with TDW, privateer, reaper7 and others will make a supermod once they figure out how to import ships into SH5.
At the moment it's the most dissappointing thing about it, the lack of variation in planes and ships.

09-01-10, 09:17 AM	#18
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Ditto what JU88 says, plus more details like the ability without a $10,000 license to make new ship models to add to the five targets available. AND the ability to lend, give away or sell the game on the used market. But that comes under Steve's DRM situation, which bothers me too. It's all fixable if Ubi wants to fix it. But they have no way to monetize the solution so the solution will not come from them, at least not soon. It sure is a good thing we have SH3 and SH4. It makes SH5 much less aggravating because we have other great World War II submarine simulators that work. I find myself just not caring whether SH5 gets fixed or not. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

09-01-10, 12:04 PM	#21
Kapitanleutnant Frogman Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 305 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Yes you should buy a copy of SH5. Then take the disc, nail it to a frisbee, and fling it over a rainbow. __________________ Oh worse than Hitler! You wouldn't find Hitler playing jungle music at three o'clock in the morning!

09-01-10, 12:10 PM	#22
Barso Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I don't know if this will mean anything to you but this is how I feel. When I leave port in SH3 GWX and I see the bands playing, nurses throwing flowers, planes flying overhead and traffic in the harbour you realise it's all about the atmosphere. Even the inside of the sub in SH3 is more appealing to me despite all the additional polygons in the SH5 interior, the problem is that most of the interior is a walk through once experience as there's nothing else to do and I play with a GTX480 were both games play maxed at 60FPS. BUT this was all created by modders and maybe modders will get SH5 like this too hopefully. I wish I could mod myself but with a wife and 2 kids and a career I don't have the time or patience, that's why I love their work so much. Because I know how hard it is to dedicate free time to doing the work they do. SH5 is a decent game and I really do hope that the modders have the time and patience to get it up were SH3 is. If you can get it cheap enough then it's worth the admission fee alone, just don't expect SH3 or SH4 fully modded. But then why would you when you consider SH3 and 4 when first released. Last edited by Barso; 09-01-10 at 12:44 PM.

09-01-10, 04:15 PM	#24
SteelViking The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: U.S.A.-East Coast Posts: 1,587 Downloads: 86 Uploads: 4	The question about fixing the problems in SH5 is not a question of if, but a question of when. I myself have not expected one more ounce of help from Ubi since patch 1.2 came out, but you don't see me giving up do you? Give us time, and everything can be solved. __________________ He sank 198,650 tons....who you ask?....Erich Topp, that's who!

09-01-10, 07:46 PM	#25
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,718 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	This is a turn about! I was perusing on eBay when some how I stumbled on this bid for SH5, I looked it over and it is certainly genuine, since you have a key and can register online and the seller was reputable with 100% positive feedback. Now I had a laugh and thought I'd place a bid on it for $5, it also had postage for $7, but never once did I think I would win it at this price, bidding was to end in the early hours of the morning (around 5.30 am), next day I checked the emails to find I had won it for US $10.23, AU $11.50 delivered (by registered mail no less)! Well UBI didn't make much profit from me!! but now the "I'll never buy SH5 crowd" is going to have a field day with me! My God, what have I done!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

09-01-10, 06:03 AM	#16
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	And the winner of the "most number of references to Ducimus in a single post" award is... pocatellodave!!! Seriously, here's what you do: point out SH5 to your significant other, just the cover will do. Do so on-line or in a store, doesn't matter. Mumble something about it being that game you heard about. Then forget about it. If your significant other follows the Subsim trend, then in a week or two you'll be the proud owner of a copy of SH5. As you didn't buy it yourself, you'll no longer have the quandary about whether to buy it or not. And, as a bonus, if it sux, just blame your partner.

09-01-10, 10:48 AM	#19
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	IMO buy the game when and IF you find it for around $20, i wouldnt recommend paying more based on my opinion of how unfinished and arcade like the game is in its stock form. yes mods do a lot for improving the game greatly but that doesnt mean you should give UBI more money (or heaven forbid, full price ) just because modders working for free on their own have made the game better.

09-01-10, 11:03 AM	#20
pocatellodave Engineer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pocatello,ID Posts: 203 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	The bad outweighs the good right now.I have one sim that has the DRM thing.I don't like it,but it really doesn't effect game play.Apparently the DRM issue has big problems in SH V,and keeps some players from playing the sim,and that's not good.The issue with the hard code bothers me the most.As it's un-fixable,and the modders can only do so much.If one has SH III and SH IV,it's hard to put them away for SH V,that is flawed and it may stay that way with the hard code issues.The 2nd patch concerns me,as if I understand correctly,the team has been pulled off SH V,for another sim,and maybe patch #2 is vaporware.I'm sorry about Ducimus,but I respect his wisdom,and Steve I respect yours as well,but I think I have the right to ask questions on the forum w/o being chided for asking in the first place.i have listened to the responces,and made my decision to wait before I purchase SH V,to see if it becomes worthy of buying. Thanks to all for the help. pocatellodave

09-01-10, 01:10 PM	#23
pocatellodave Engineer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Pocatello,ID Posts: 203 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	You can pick up SH V for 20 bucks,and that price will keep dropping I'm sure.We can all hope SH V is fixable,because in all honesty,pc games are becoming rarer all the time.SH III is the epitomy of what the modders can do to make a sim a classic.Hats off to Subsim,and the modders.

09-01-10, 08:45 PM	#26
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Jumpin Jebus on a pogo stock. Look, im flattered some people think so highly of me, but seriously: I'm just a guy like anyone else here., I do not know it all, I do not have an authoritative opinion, which is just that, an opinion. I put my pants on one leg at a time. I'm just a guy, who had way too much time on his hands, that often enough gets really snide and sarchastic. I have my moments were im totally talking out of my ass, and I have my moments were i'm really rough around the edges. Any of the forum old timers could tell you this. Hell, ive probably had administrative action taken upon me for longer then most people here. Including Dowly. Again, any of the forum old timers could tell you this. I'm no saint, I just have a big freaking mouth. That is all.

09-02-10, 02:50 AM	#29
Barso Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	At that price you will get alot from the game and yes, I agree, I admire steelviking for what he does and plans to do. Hopefully himslf along with TDW, privateer, reaper7 and others will make a supermod once they figure out how to import ships into SH5. At the moment it's the most dissappointing thing about it, the lack of variation in planes and ships.