Washington Times: Impeach Obama

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

GR, actually I wanted McCain to win, but the american voters chose Obama and for better or worse, he is the president until jan. 20, 2013.

My point is more that impeachment should be reserved for outright iilegal conduct against the Constitution, conduct like Nixon's in 1972.

It's not healthy for a democracy to try to destroy its duly elected leaders just because you don't agree with their policies. Voters will get their chance to express their judgement in 2012.

Just remember that whatever Republicans pull against Obama, democrats wil be sure to do to the next Republican president.

The next President will no doubt be a pro american President and not a post American President, Dems won't have near the material(esp truthful) material Obama's opponents have.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

More blowhard rhetoric from another right wing extremist.

Agreed. This is an opinion piece rather than a legal case for impeachment. You may agree with his opinion, but that doesn't make it fact.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Oh get real.Waterboarding is not torture and it's worked according to many reports.

Have you ever been waterboarded? Have you ever seen someone waterboarded? Have you ever been tortured? Have you ever tortured anyone?

If all those are true, then how do you know it's not torture? Because you like the people who say it's not torture and don't like those who do?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

GR, actually I wanted McCain to win....

I did too, until he nominated that overchristianized, folksy nit wit, dumb as a box of rocks soccer mom as his running mate. After that, I couldn't in good conscious vote for anyone.

[Sailor Steve]

I voted for Ron Paul in perfectly good conscience.

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Have you ever been waterboarded? Have you ever seen someone waterboarded? Have you ever been tortured? Have you ever tortured anyone?

If all those are true, then how do you know it's not torture? Because you like the people who say it's not torture and don't like those who do?

Don't have to be waterboarded to know if it's torture or not.Do you know what the definition of torture is? The definition of torture is:: the infliction of intense pain (as from burning, crushing, or wounding) to punish, coerce, or afford sadistic pleasure)

Water boarding only simulates drowning, it installs fear but the person is not in real danger.Pleasant? no Effective? yes torture? no

Also have to look at how waterboarding is done by the US.They strap them to a board, put a hood over their head and pour water on them.I endured worse hazing in during pledge week, give me a break.Nazi's used waterboarding but in a much more dangerous form.I do recall reading they would strap someone to a board and have it mounted in a seesaw fashion with a large tub of water at the end where the subjects head was located, would ask a question then take their weight off the board and allow the subjects head to become submerged for a period of time then bring them back out then after barely catching their breath, they were submerged again.Now I agree this is torture and puts the subject in real danger.

The US method is waterboarding light and as said, I endured worse during pledge week in my freshman year, so lets stop whining for scumbag terrorists shall we?

Bubblehead, just one question.
What planet are you on?

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I voted for Ron Paul in perfectly good conscience.

I voted for McCain because I knew he was only one who could likely beat Obama.I dislike Palin and would love to see Ron Paul as President, although I disagree with his foreign policy views for most part.did not vote for Paul because he had no chance and didnt want to take away from mccain.

[Stealth Hunter]

He is slowly - piece by painful piece - erecting a socialist dictatorship.

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

I did too, until he nominated that overchristianized, folksy nit wit, dumb as a box of rocks soccer mom as his running mate. After that, I couldn't in good conscious vote for anyone.

That's not a nice thing to say about the 2012 Republican nominee...

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Zachstar

If Impeachment was off the table for Bush after waterboarding. Obama is off the hook.

Something like this. What is sauce for the goose must be sauce for the gander, too.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Waterboarding is not torture and it's worked according to many reports.

And when I cut your throat then that is no murder. It may even work, so - lean your head back!

i am not debating torture yes/no here. just wanting to say that administering simulated agony and provoking according physical reflexes and reactions by the body [violent, brutal, harsh, spasmic reactions, btw.) sure as hell is torture not different to beating, cutting limbs of and electroshocks. If you do not believe me, ask some friends to press your head under water until you almost fade out. You will be amazed what your body will give you in sensations and agony. If you are male, you might even get an erection. That'S why some people consider waterboarding to ba a gay practice.

Waterboarding just lacks the splatter fx, it just is a cup of water spilled in your face, isn't it, it even is not much water, and that's why simple minds consider it to be harmless and tame. If it would be tame, I wonder why there can be reports then claiming that it is "effective". Did the subject suddenly discover it's sense of humour and decided to cooperate before it laughs itself to death?

[Ducimus]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

That's not a nice thing to say about the 2012 Republican nominee...

/facepalm

[Catfish]

And this is a Texan's answer to this article

" ... TexasJack says:
9 hours, 8 minutes ago


" ... My evangilical friends see Brock Obama as the third coming of the anti-Christ prophesized in the Bible. Meanwhile some of us caught in the expanse of our societal downward spiral see President-44 as the leader of a nat'l socialist movement reminescent of that that brought the world to war in 1939.
Reading ''Dreams of My Father'' autobiography of Mr. O resurrects the same emotions of Heir H's ''Mein Kampf'' where both men pursue a blame game on others. In Adolf's time, it was the Jews who got blamed for everything wrong in Germany. It Brock's time, a day does not go by without him spewing his BIOB (blame it on bush) mentality. Like AH, BO is a divider not a uniter. Our nation needs a leader who will bring the nation under a common goal -- bring it out of the great recession, make is prosperous again. Where that leader will come from is still unknown but one thing is certain, it's not going to happen under Brock Hussein Obama. ..."


OMG i am really happy that those religious weirdos packed and left back then for the to-become US, beginning with the "Mayflower".

What the US right wing-Nazi-KKK-NRA-locust capitalist press needs is a direct slap in the face, for de-stabilizing the country and mess around with the elected President of the United States.
Or take the southern states, re-institute slavery, build a high wall around it and make them elect their own president Jefferson re-incarnation. But please leave the rest of the world alone with this utter bullsh!t. I will gladly give them Bavaria, our politicians and lobbyists as a free giveaway

Greetings,
Catfish

[MGR1]

Originally Posted by Catfish

But please leave the rest of the world alone with this utter bullsh!t. I will gladly give them Bavaria, our politicians and lobbyists as a free giveaway

Greetings,
Catfish

Well, this is an American based forum.

As a result, us Euro's do get to see the Americans on this forum put forth their views on their country's political process, arguably ad nauseum!

As for the UK, Tony Blair's memoirs were published today, and there hasn't been a thread made on it. Something I'm rather glad of, as I've been avoiding the news as much as I can!!!

Mike.