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Grey Wolf
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My bad, they would probably best resemble a warrant officer rank until they become a leutnant. Here's a comprehensive chart for the navy: I apologize for the clipping on the file, the page was written in html and hard to figure out a way to get it displayed on this site. The Chief Petty Officer Row (completely missing) and bottom of the Warrant officer 1st class are clipped To see the whole list correctly click here http://pelsia.741.com/source.html ![]() Sorry about the ads, I don't have any easily accessible webspace around and just needed something quick. |
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Grey Wolf
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Otherwise, I think part of the problem here is trying to make a simple "top-to-bottom" rank chart, which is simply not possible in the US and UK navies, since midshipmen are/were sort of an intake route to officership. Midshipmen simply don't exist in that hierarchy. If they did in the German navy ranks, at that time, of course, is another question.
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Think of middies as your (very) younger brother - always underfoot, not quite coordinated enuf to actually DO anything with you and your friends, but Mommy INSISTS you let him tag along .....
Middies in all navies are strictly makee-learnee, not in any formal chain of command but strictly there to learn and get some experience. Back in the days of sailing ships, a middie in the RN might actually be given some duties and responsibilities in the smaller ships, but to my knowledge not in any Navy in the "modern" age. |
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![]() Unfortunately we always talked about ensigns in those exact same terms. Quote:
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I think the ranks of Fähnrich and Oberfähnrich are analogous (in the RAF and British Army - not so sure about the RN) to the modern day Officer Cadet.
These are trainees, enlisted and paid as private soldiers, but may understudy a regular officer until they are themselves fully commissioned. They are given the honorary title of OCdt and certain privileges like use of the officers' mess. From reading Iron Coffins by Herbert Werner, his duties aboard his first boat as a Fähnrich sounds pretty close to that ... and being the most junior, his officers dumped all their post-patrol paperwork on him the moment they reached port! ![]() |
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