Getting back into my Submarine

Rockin Robbins · 08-30-10, 05:53 AM

One thing for sure. Keep your installation as simple as possible if you don't want mod soup. Just a casual survey of Subsim will reveal a ghastly number of people with "what's wrong" questions who have lists of a dozen or more mods. Don't go there!

With RFB or TMO you can safely add sub skins, missions, custom keyboard layouts, a different bearing plotters and........practically nothing else if you want gameplay to be what the designers intended. Do not add environmental mods. Do not add Webster's GFO components, do not add mods to add or subtract floaty stuff in the water. Resist!

In restraint lies the way to happiness.

Spike88 · 08-30-10, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

One thing for sure. Keep your installation as simple as possible if you don't want mod soup. Just a casual survey of Subsim will reveal a ghastly number of people with "what's wrong" questions who have lists of a dozen or more mods. Don't go there!

With RFB or TMO you can safely add sub skins, missions, custom keyboard layouts, a different bearing plotters and........practically nothing else if you want gameplay to be what the designers intended. Do not add environmental mods. Do not add Webster's GFO components, do not add mods to add or subtract floaty stuff in the water. Resist!

In restraint lies the way to happiness.

Then I guess I'll just install SH4, and RFB and be done with it.

I was looking for floaty stuff mods, but do not want to deal with my game screwing up.

WernherVonTrapp · 08-30-10, 02:19 PM

You can add RFB, RSRDC and the Merchant Skinpack without any probs. I also run the Coral Sea Skinpack for my fleetboat. Oh yeah, I also have "sobers betters sand" and "sobers better rocks" (they're basically environmental skin packs), along with more map labels. No problems with gameplay either.

Spike88 · 08-30-10, 09:05 PM

Thanks, I'll try those out. Installing SH4UBM now.

Quick question, how does RFB work in regards to UBM?

tater · 08-30-10, 09:55 PM

I'd not bother with the stock campaign, it has NO redeeming qualities.

WernherVonTrapp · 08-31-10, 01:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike88

Thanks, I'll try those out. Installing SH4UBM now.

Quick question, how does RFB work in regards to UBM?

Sorry, never played the UBMs. Maybe somebody else can comment on that.

Spike88 · 08-31-10, 02:41 AM

Despite what I said earlier, I just now installed SH4. Looking for JGSME to install next.

Will soon be in my first patrol with a nice glass of vodka, and either a book or Das Boot.

Edit: I'm forgoing RSRB for my first Campaign for the sole fact that I suck and want as many targets as possible to hone my skills on.

Rockin Robbins · 08-31-10, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Spike88

Will soon be in my first patrol with a nice glass of vodka, and either a book or Das Boot.

Das Boot????!!!!! Much better done with Thunder Below, Run Silent Run Deep, War Patrols of the Flasher, Torpedoman, Destroyer Killer or some other book that can actually make you a better captain. Das Boot doesn't tell you diddley about how to skipper a boat. Might as well read a comic book.

Schwieger · 08-30-10, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

One thing for sure. Keep your installation as simple as possible if you don't want mod soup. Just a casual survey of Subsim will reveal a ghastly number of people with "what's wrong" questions who have lists of a dozen or more mods. Don't go there!

With RFB or TMO you can safely add sub skins, missions, custom keyboard layouts, a different bearing plotters and........practically nothing else if you want gameplay to be what the designers intended. Do not add environmental mods. Do not add Webster's GFO components, do not add mods to add or subtract floaty stuff in the water. Resist!

In restraint lies the way to happiness.

argh, so I can't dl the mod that this vid is advertising?

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Originally Posted by tater

I'd not bother with the stock campaign, it has NO redeeming qualities.

target rich environment not good for you? lol

tater · 08-30-10, 10:42 PM

Dunno, the 60+ Akizuki DDs in the initial invasion convoys instantly destroy any sense of realism (given there were only 12 during the whole war, and ZERO were art sea during that part of the war).

Rockin Robbins · 08-31-10, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Schwieger

argh, so I can't dl the mod that this vid is advertising?

l

Personally, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. It is already incorporated into TMO as much as it can be without destroying gameplay. RFB also includes environmental modifications. Even with the incorporated environmental mods, RFB went through a very trying period where you couldn't lock the periscope on a target because of unwanted interaction of different tweaks.

Environmental mods are first on the list of "don't go there!" There be dragons. Let the supermodders work out what can be used without destroying gameplay. They work closely with the environmental modders in a way that you can't hope to.

08-30-10, 05:53 AM	#1
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	One thing for sure. Keep your installation as simple as possible if you don't want mod soup. Just a casual survey of Subsim will reveal a ghastly number of people with "what's wrong" questions who have lists of a dozen or more mods. Don't go there! With RFB or TMO you can safely add sub skins, missions, custom keyboard layouts, a different bearing plotters and........practically nothing else if you want gameplay to be what the designers intended. Do not add environmental mods. Do not add Webster's GFO components, do not add mods to add or subtract floaty stuff in the water. Resist! In restraint lies the way to happiness. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

08-30-10, 02:19 PM	#3
WernherVonTrapp Admiral Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Now, alot farther from NYC. Posts: 2,228 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 0	You can add RFB, RSRDC and the Merchant Skinpack without any probs. I also run the Coral Sea Skinpack for my fleetboat. Oh yeah, I also have "sobers betters sand" and "sobers better rocks" (they're basically environmental skin packs), along with more map labels. No problems with gameplay either. __________________ "The journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." -Miyamoto Musashi ------------------------------------------------------- "What is truth?" -Pontius Pilate

08-30-10, 09:05 PM	#4
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Thanks, I'll try those out. Installing SH4UBM now. Quick question, how does RFB work in regards to UBM? __________________

08-31-10, 02:41 AM	#7
Spike88 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 3,052 Downloads: 36 Uploads: 0	Despite what I said earlier, I just now installed SH4. Looking for JGSME to install next. Will soon be in my first patrol with a nice glass of vodka, and either a book or Das Boot. Edit: I'm forgoing RSRB for my first Campaign for the sole fact that I suck and want as many targets as possible to hone my skills on. __________________

08-30-10, 09:55 PM	#5
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	I'd not bother with the stock campaign, it has NO redeeming qualities.

08-30-10, 10:42 PM	#10
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Dunno, the 60+ Akizuki DDs in the initial invasion convoys instantly destroy any sense of realism (given there were only 12 during the whole war, and ZERO were art sea during that part of the war).