How many will buy SH5 if DRM is dropped?

[janh]

I suppose that there is a substantial skew in the result of this poll due to its simple nature: Most of the people that are not at all interested anymore, no matter whether due to DRM or quality issues, are probably not around anymore on this forum to vote... But anyway, this poll doesn't really tell a lot.

[Nufsed]

I bought SH5, DRM and all. I have had no problems connecting with the servers and the following statement is based on my personal experience with this "Simulation"

Silent Hunter 5 is going to be the "best" Submarine/U-Boat sim "ever". I base this prediction on (a) The base game/programming is pretty sound and the game stable (b) The amount and quality of the "Mods" released so-far (The sim on my machine is radically different from the original download, both graphically and AI wise). This situation has arisen solely from the dedication of a few very clever and IT savvy modders (You all know who you are). And I for one would to thank and congratulate all of you Guys for your unwavering belief in this great sim.

Thankyou

[McBeck]

Originally Posted by janh

I suppose that there is a substantial skew in the result of this poll due to its simple nature: Most of the people that are not at all interested anymore, no matter whether due to DRM or quality issues, are probably not around anymore on this forum to vote... But anyway, this poll doesn't really tell a lot.

I think it tell a very powerfull statement. Out of the people who bothered to answer...3/4 would buy the game if DRM was removed...meaning that they could live with the flaws the game has.

[Gilbou]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I disagree, mainly because though the question was how many would buy it if the DRM was dropped, there was also a poll option for who wouldn't buy it; and the question was the same, leaving it open for those who will and those who won't.

HOWEVER...


It seems to me that JCC asked you why you are posting here, not because you said you won't buy it, which is fine, but because you said you're not playing any Silent Hunter at all, and probably never would. So the real question becomes: Why are you even reading forums and threads devoted solely to Silent Hunter games? Most people only read forums devoted to things they are actually interested in.

Bla Bla Bla

I started playing Silent Hunter 2. I got it monthes before everyone else because at that time I was a journalist, and got a preview of the game so I could test the game and write an article about it, several monthes before it went out in the stores. I also played SH1 after SH2 as we had a non opened SH1 Commander's Edition in stock at the journal.

I loved SH3 when it came out. I even made friends that never played Sub simulators play the game.

I bought the SH4 Collector's Edition.

I have been playing SH since the fist one, thank you.

If DRM is dropped from SH5 I will not buy it. I would rather install SH4 and play the US side using Fall of the Rising Sun, or the German side using Monsun.

I have stopped playing SH as I consider that franchise dead. The same way I stopped playing the Ravenshield one (Ubisoft destroyed its unique complex gameplay). I stopped playing Ghost Recon (Ubisoft made the game a joke with GRAW and GRAW2 and only GRAW with the OGR Coop Mod is acceptable.. and does not even reach the talon of Ghost Recon + the two expansions pack that followed it). Same for Splinter Cell.

For each of those franchises (Ravenshield, Ghost Recon, Splinter Cell, Silent Hunter) I have been an avid player from the first versions of the game and I saw Ubisoft turn each of those to crap.

I will not buy SH5 even if DRM is dropped.

[Badger Finn]

Originally Posted by McBeck

I think it tell a very powerfull statement. Out of the people who bothered to answer...3/4 would buy the game if DRM was removed...meaning that they could live with the flaws the game has.

Think it would be more case of rather than living with it I would be in a mind set of what can I do with SH5 to bring it up to *simulator* speed representing WWII ATO...

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by Gilbou

I have stopped playing SH as I consider that franchise dead.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

So the real question becomes: Why are you even reading forums and threads devoted solely to Silent Hunter games? Most people only read forums devoted to things they are actually interested in.

You didn't say why you frequent forums for a franchise that is dead to you, especially as you didn't seem to bring flowers for the grave. By the way, no need to wait for SH5 to be released without DRM to not buy it and play SH4 instead. You can play SH4 now, without waiting to not buy SH5.

[Task Force]

NO, even tho I have it, if I didnt have it already, I wouldnt buy it.

I must say, this game is missing something, dont know what.

[DelphiUniverse]

Originally Posted by Task Force

NO, even tho I have it, if I didnt have it already, I wouldnt buy it.

I must say, this game is missing something, dont know what.

When you got medals in silent hunter 2 you could see it on screen. In SH5 it doesnt seem to appear, until you click your own medals to watch, they just suddenly pop up in your collection. Thats one thing missing.

Another thing missing is more variety of weather. And airplanes should attack more often, destroyers should attack more aggressively.

The sounds should have been a bit better, more fitting and cool. I guess thats why we have the 3rd party community.

[Paajtor]

Originally Posted by Task Force

I must say, this game is missing something, dont know what.

SH3 had soul, you could smell it...SH5 smells like money.
Well that's my opinion.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Gilbou

If DRM is dropped from SH5 I will not buy it. I would rather install SH4 and play the US side using Fall of the Rising Sun, or the German side using Monsun.

Fair enough.

I have stopped playing SH as I consider that franchise dead. The same way I stopped playing the Ravenshield one.

That makes no sense to me, though of course it doesn't have to, as it's no business of mine. But that said, I don't understand why that would make you stop playing them. I would still play SH1 if not for SH4. If there is no other Silent Hunter, and SH5 is never fixed to a point where it makes me happy, I would still play SH3 and SH4. Just because the franchise is dead doesn't mean those games aren't still worth playing.

I will not buy SH5 even if DRM is dropped.

I understand, and support your decision. But I still don't understand, if you hate all Silent Hunter games that much, why you would even read these forums. That makes no sense to me.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

By the way, no need to wait for SH5 to be released without DRM to not buy it and play SH4 instead. You can play SH4 now, without waiting to not buy SH5.

I've always loved your logic.

[Gilbou]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

But that said, I don't understand why that would make you stop playing them

Because it hurts.

It hurts to play SH4 and be all the time thinking how fun it would be
to play SH5 because I saw the graphics improvements and they kick ass.

SH5 is better than SH4 in many things I won't list here. And all of this
I keep away from me because of their DRM.

It just hurts so I prefer to consider the franchise dead, and move on
to another games.

I play ARMA 2 now. Waited until they removed the copy protection
in one of their patches before buying it. Sent them a letter about it,
that I would wait for the DRM to be dropped before buying. They did
after some time, and I bought the game with over 10 other friends
and we play Arma 2.

I gave up on SH.

[Gilbou]

Originally Posted by Nisgeis

You didn't say why you frequent forums for a franchise that is dead to you, especially as you didn't seem to bring flowers for the grave. By the way, no need to wait for SH5 to be released without DRM to not buy it and play SH4 instead. You can play SH4 now, without waiting to not buy SH5.

I came from time to time to see if DRM would be dropped or not. From time to time I check. See that people are still having problems with DRM, with no answer from Ubi (which says a lot). I read around a little, then I leave for a few monthes again.

Why I keep reading the forums is not to see people be in trouble with the game. I keep myself informed. I don't think they will drop DRM. I will check from time to time to see if a SH6 will come out, but I don't even believe they will after such fiasco.

[Harmsway!]

Originally Posted by Gilbou

Because it hurts.

It hurts to play SH4 and be all the time thinking how fun it would be
to play SH5 because I saw the graphics improvements and they kick ass.

....... ..

I gave up on SH.

I understand what you are saying. I feel some of that too. But there is always something out there that breeds discontentment. You got to work through that or live miserably. I just read about a new 3D TV that you don't need 3D glasses for. That's available now and in the works are 3D images that you can touch. They're talking about having virtual museums where the blind or anyone can feel all those things secured behind glass. Now are you going to quit watching TV?

[JScones]

Originally Posted by Harmsway!

Now are you going to quit watching TV?

Nup, I will certainly continue to enjoy my HD LCD screen whilst I watch the early adopters replace their 3D screens numerous times over the next few years of evolution until stability sets in.

And I reserve the right to regularly read up on the new technology--despite not owning it--as I see fit, so that I can determine with informed knowledge when it's the best time for me to take the plunge.

3D TV sure looks purdy though...