top republican announces he is gay - no one cares

[Platapus]

Perhaps one day we will evolve as a society when no one will ever care when someone declares their sexuality.

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Not quite, since gay-bashing is one of the preferred pasttimes of the social conservatives in the religious right, whose votes are of great importance to the GOP, which therefore makes a habit of either overtly pandering to their homophobia or at the very least not speaking out against it.

The less hostile and more tolerant the GOP is perceived to be towards the GLBT community, the less attractive it becomes to a portion of its base that it has counted on for several decades now.

The medias portrayal of

gay-bashing is one of the preferred pasttimes of the social conservatives in the religious right

is more accurate. Yet Chelsea Handler, a TV phenom regular degrades her people for being gay. Another double standard, indeed.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Not quite, since gay-bashing is one of the preferred pasttimes of the social conservatives in the religious right, whose votes are of great importance to the GOP, which therefore makes a habit of either overtly pandering to their homophobia or at the very least not speaking out against it.

The less hostile and more tolerant the GOP is perceived to be towards the GLBT community, the less attractive it becomes to a portion of its base that it has counted on for several decades now.

May I ask what Obama thinks of gay marriage?

Originally Posted by Platapus

Perhaps one day we will evolve as a society when no one will ever care when someone declares their sexuality.

Perhaps somethings can be kept to onesself. When folks start giving out their S/S numbers ,Bank acount numbers and tax returns then we can start talking about our sexual preference.

[Gerald]

and that he then are politicians, the media gives an extra kick to publish more of his great business, which I do not care about,to be gay or lesbian, is everyday food today this is an example of making a spring to a hen, or if it was contrary.

[tater]

I know no conservatives who "gay bash," myself. I know many who are against legislating gay marriage from the bench, though. I'm one of them. I'm FOR passing a law, but I think there are no rights violated right now.

Bashing conservatives as "hateful" is BS, IMHO.

[UnderseaLcpl]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Perhaps one day we will evolve as a society when no one will ever care when someone declares their sexuality.

One can hope, but I suspect there will always be people who have some problem with it. Assuming Dawkins and his disciples are mostly correct, sexuality is a pretty big part of, well, everything people do, whether they realize it or not. Everything we are (biologically) comes from the people before us who reproduced most successfully, a theory that holds broad implications for the rest of our behaviour, both directly and indirectly.

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Whats up with the mushrooms?

Why did the mushroom go to the party?

Because he was a fun-gie

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Perhaps one day we will evolve as a society when no one will ever care when someone declares their sexuality.

Or better - that somebody not even care for declaring his sexuality.

Originally Posted by Skybird

Or better - that somebody not even care for declaring his sexuality.

yep. It only happens when it is politicized.


I'm straight. But like Thai transsexuals. All the body without the smell.

How do you feel about me now?

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by tater

I know no conservatives who "gay bash," myself. I know many who are avaunt legislating gay marriage from the bench, though. I'm one of them. I'm FOR passing a law, but I think there are no rights violated right now.

Bashing conservatives as "hateful" is BS, IMHO.

I did not bash conservatives overall as hateful. However there are those on the religious right who do engage in very public displays of anti-GLBT sentiment, and generally speaking they are part of the "Moral Majority" crowd that - like it or not - makes up part of the GOP base and has for some time. Whether or not other conservatives or the GOP leadership itself agrees with them with regard to their social/cultural agenda is another matter entirely. As is the question of whether or not they will remain part of the base if the GOP appears to be moving away from support of that agenda in some fashion. Which IMO is what makes it somewhat newsworthy when a fairly prominent Republican chooses to come out as a homosexual.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

I did not bash conservatives overall as hateful. However there are those on the religious right who do engage in very public displays of anti-GLBT sentiment, and generally speaking they are part of the "Moral Majority" crowd that - like it or not - makes up part of the GOP base and has for some time. Whether or not other conservatives or the GOP leadership itself agrees with them with regard to their social/cultural agenda is another matter entirely. As is the question of whether or not they will remain part of the base if the GOP appears to be moving away from support of that agenda in some fashion. Which IMO is what makes it somewhat newsworthy when a fairly prominent Republican chooses to come out as a homosexual.

What is news worthy about it is the fact he was part of Bush's administrations and he strongly opposed gay marriage. Now that he has come out it makes it kind of ironic.

Now, we have spent enough time with the GOP and this anti-gay stuff is part of the GOP but we have failed to explore Obama. Has anyone taken a good look at what Obama thinks of gay marriage? It ain't pretty I assure you.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

What is news worthy about it is the fact he was part of Bush's administrations and he strongly opposed gay marriage. Now that he has come out it makes it kind of ironic.

Is it accepted that every homosexual is in favour of gay marriage? I don't think that has been demonstrated yet. So it is entirely possible for this man to be both
1. A homosexual
2. Against homosexual marriage

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Platapus

Is it accepted that every homosexual is in favour of gay marriage? I don't think that has been demonstrated yet. So it is entirely possible for this man to be both
1. A homosexual
2. Against homosexual marriage

That is not the point of putting this in the media. No one cares if he is for gay marriage. The man was not out of the closet when he was working for Bush. As far as the world was concerned he was as heterosexual as a heterosexual can be. He opposed gay marriage at that time. Yesterday he comes out of the closet. That is the irony that the media decided was enough to plaster it all over the news. Being for or against gay marriage has no bearing at present. It is the irony of covering up during the Bush administrations and being against gay marriage yet staying in the closet playing the part.

The only real news is that when he was secretly gay he followed the party line and supported those who oppose gay marriage and now he is saying he supports gay marriage