Just missed a TF

[U777]

Who knows maybe it was a blessing in disguise. BTW we have x-ray vision?

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by U777

Who knows maybe it was a blessing in disguise. BTW we have x-ray vision?

are good enough

[desirableroasted]

The risk-reward ratio of attacking a task force is so thin that just reading your musings sends a chill down my spine.

Seriously, going after a TF of Tribals and Didos -- chasing them no less, too -- is like swatting a hornet's nest with the palm of your hand. Doable, sure; painful, certainly; no glory earned (as far as I remember, the reknown gained from a Dido is not much different from that of a small merchant).

I will examine a TF if it is bearing down on me anyway... and if there is a BB or carrier in the middle, which is rare, I will take a shot at the capital ship if conditions are right. But going after a bunch of cans and Didos seems pretty much a waste of munitions and hardly worth the risk.

As long as one is not detected on the approach and there's plenty of deep water, attacking a task force isn't so bad in my experience. If you are detected, you can always dive deep, and call it a day. Just don't get greedy and keep attacking.

I agree with desirableroasted, in that it's not worth attacking them unless there's a pretty succulent target in their ranks.

[ralphnader23]

Those destroyers give me so much trouble, that I always feel obliged to give them a little pain back, on the rare occasion that I can sneak up on them.

[Gerald]

to act when you make contact with TF,you need to quickly determine the position, and if it is possible to intercept, you do not lose anything if you have the power to confront any of the ships and if it is shallow or deep water does not matter but some deep water has advantage,strike quickly and then disappear, but see a TF as a standard convoy although they move faster than a "normal" convoy but remember you have the upper hand as long as you are Sharpe and is under the surface

[K-61]

Originally Posted by U777

Who knows maybe it was a blessing in disguise. BTW we have x-ray vision?

We do indeed, but taking advantage of it is considered "gamey" by die hard simmers. In dirty weather, you can use the scopes or UZO to "see" targets that are beyond visual range. You simply rotate the scope or UZO a degree or two at a time and quickly press the "L" key [lock] to briefly lock up a target. If you have auto targeting enabled it will give you a description of the target and range to target. You can then use this information to plot an attack for when it does come into visual range.

As I said, you can use this, but it is taking advantage of the game's weakness that fails to take into account the current visual environment. That's why we call it "X-ray vision." I don't use it because I wish to play under the constraints of real world sensors. I also do not use the hydrophone plotting method as the hydrophone gear of WW2 U-boats was not precise enough to give accurate bearings for acoustic only plotting. I do use the hydrophones to hunt when submerged, but only to establish relative bearings in order to set up a visual attack. The final generation of WW2 U-boats had improved hydrophones, but they were too little, too late. Had those advanced U-boats made it into the war in a timely fashion they may have proved to be war winners, but we'll never know. It's like the ME-262; could have been but wasn't.

[U777]

Originally Posted by K-61

We do indeed, but taking advantage of it is considered "gamey" by die hard simmers. In dirty weather, you can use the scopes or UZO to "see" targets that are beyond visual range. You simply rotate the scope or UZO a degree or two at a time and quickly press the "L" key [lock] to briefly lock up a target. If you have auto targeting enabled it will give you a description of the target and range to target. You can then use this information to plot an attack for when it does come into visual range.

As I said, you can use this, but it is taking advantage of the game's weakness that fails to take into account the current visual environment. That's why we call it "X-ray vision." I don't use it because I wish to play under the constraints of real world sensors. I also do not use the hydrophone plotting method as the hydrophone gear of WW2 U-boats was not precise enough to give accurate bearings for acoustic only plotting. I do use the hydrophones to hunt when submerged, but only to establish relative bearings in order to set up a visual attack. The final generation of WW2 U-boats had improved hydrophones, but they were too little, too late. Had those advanced U-boats made it into the war in a timely fashion they may have proved to be war winners, but we'll never know. It's like the ME-262; could have been but wasn't.

I get what you mean now. As for TF's I avoid them but there was one time where I accidently ran into a small one and bagged a destroyer.

[Alpha Von Burg]

As mentioned before, know the risk and the rewards that follow.
In my opinion, it's a waste of amunition to sink a destroyer, in terms of tonnage. I only sink destroyers if ti reduces the treat but sinking only a destroyer in a TF full of them those not reduce the risk.

I only find it worth the risk when I know a BB is present in the TF and when I can see them before they see me, in other words, consider the weather.

[Gerald]

Originally Posted by Alpha Von Burg

As mentioned before, know the risk and the rewards that follow.
In my opinion, it's a waste of amunition to sink a destroyer, in terms of tonnage. I only sink destroyers if ti reduces the treat but sinking only a destroyer in a TF full of them those not reduce the risk.

I only find it worth the risk when I know a BB is present in the TF and when I can see them before they see me, in other words, consider the weather.

and the result was one BB and 2 CL 3 DD not bad when I was not in danger,

[Zedwardson]

I will bag anything that comes my way, and have sunk two ships from them. One was in the dusk, and my stern shot took out a DD that was screening the hood (I was aiming for the hood, hoping to cripple it for airstrikes and or give me time to finish it off.)

The second time I had one basicly run over me on a stormy night North East of Scapa Flow, and in my best moment of SH3, at 10,000 meters, two of my four eels hit the HMS Ramillies and she eventually succumbed to her wounds. I was so far out the escorts never got closer then 3000 meters as they never thought it was that long range of a shot. I shot another spread at a cruiser but missed, and went home to medals.

that Commander was lost in his next patrol.