[needed] better TBF-1 Avenger model and allied planes

keltos01 · 08-21-10, 02:42 AM

I need a better TBF-1 Avenger3d model than the stock one :

real deal :

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...BF_Avenger.jpg

TBF-1 Avenger early in 1942. Note the red spot centered in the US national insignia, which was removed just before the Battle of Midway

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater

Never saw the TBF/TBM in game before.

It's terrible if it's actually supposed to be a TBF (wings and H stab are wrong, as is fuselage... Oh, the gear are in the wrong place, too

)

Looks like the roundels have the Star with a red circle in the middle. That was eliminated before TBFs ever saw combat (for fear of what happened in this thread, misidentification with japanese aircraft

)

Anyone got a better 3d model of an Avenger ? with the rear belly gun ?

this also goes for any and all US planes one is likely to encounter in the PTO.

we should make a new plane, IJN for instance, and set up a US 3d model to simulate "friendly fire" ?

keltos

08-21-10, 02:57 AM

You could talk to Alex.

Check his model out.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3875/avenger.gif

keltos01 · 08-21-10, 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

You could talk to Alex.

Check his model out.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3875/avenger.gif

definetely !!!! wow a beaut !

we'll need to add that belly gun too !

keltos

08-21-10, 09:48 AM

Yes Alex is becomeing quite the 3D modeler.
Now he just needs to get the models to someone to do the imports.
Or get busy and do it himself.

tomoose · 08-21-10, 11:45 AM

I'm running TMO 2.0 and I think I've only seen Helldivers and Buffaloes on the US flattops. A bit of an immersion killer as I don't think Buffaloes were ever a carrier aircraft (but I'm not sure on that) whereas the Helldiver wasn't introduced until a bit later.

It would definitely be nice to see the appropriate aircraft on the flattops (as well as in the air).

Nice work Alex! There's hope yet, LOL.

AOTD_MadMax · 08-23-10, 04:55 AM

Hi Keltos,

in FOTRS i got an Avenger !

There is also an Dauntless !

You can use them if you want !

Regards

Maddy

keltos01 · 08-23-10, 08:35 AM

we definetely will use them !!!

thanks Maddy glad to see you're still around

k

tater · 08-23-10, 08:40 AM

The torpedo should be internal on the TBF. As should the bomb load.

Since the models don't care, the B nodes can simply be bumped inside.

08-23-10, 05:30 PM

Once the nodes are moved inside.
Do some fancy work and make the Bomb doors open.

It can be done if you really want it to happen.

tater · 08-23-10, 05:38 PM

Not sure anyone dumb enough to stay on the surface in the face of a TBF should be rewarded with something as cool as that

Alex · 08-23-10, 06:13 PM

@ Privateer :

Quote:

Originally Posted by keltos01

definetely !!!! wow a beaut !

Thank you Sir.

peabody · 08-23-10, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

Once the nodes are moved inside.
Do some fancy work and make the Bomb doors open.

It can be done if you really want it to happen.

The only problem I would have with that is what to link the animation to. I could animate them to open but how would I link the animation so they open when the bomb drops or open when they detect your sub and attack?

There are a lot of things like that and I have no idea how they do it. For example: When a DD detects you he flashes a signal, drops DCs, Fires guns, turns his rudder and races toward you. I always thought these things were hardcoded and not accessible to use to trigger other events.
I have an Ohka Kamikaze rocket/bomb that is dropped from a heavy bomber, but I have no idea how to activate the "rocket" after it is dropped, so I have the rocket "On" all the time. It's not noticeable at altitude but it is not what I wanted. But have no idea how to use the "drop event" to trigger the rocket.
On a player's sub I could link to the dive planes, or the opening of a torpedo door to trigger an event, since I could link to the animation. But I have no clue how to link to a bomb dropping.

Peabody

tater · 08-23-10, 07:52 PM

IMHO any effort to do this would be wasted. Eye candy is only as good as the least pretty part of whatever the eyecandy is. The planes behave so little like actual aircraft, seeing the door open is sort of overkill.

YMMV.

keltos01 · 08-24-10, 01:07 AM

nice accurate models even with bomb doors closed would do .

The hardest part is that IMO there isn't a real dynamic campaign : if you sink those US carriers early in the war there should be repercussions, there should be something happening because of your actions.. but there isn't, this is most frustrating...

keltos

AOTD_MadMax · 08-24-10, 04:19 AM

I know that the TBF got the Torpedo inside but i have tested it out with the Betty in FOTRS.
When you put the Torps inside the Hull of an Plane the Torpedo will not run to the target.
They all gone lost on the seaground.
Torpedos must be outside of the Hull if they should work.

You will make me happy when you find out a way to make that run !

Regards

Maddy

08-21-10, 11:45 AM	#5
tomoose Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 930 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Helldivers and Buffaloes I'm running TMO 2.0 and I think I've only seen Helldivers and Buffaloes on the US flattops. A bit of an immersion killer as I don't think Buffaloes were ever a carrier aircraft (but I'm not sure on that) whereas the Helldiver wasn't introduced until a bit later. It would definitely be nice to see the appropriate aircraft on the flattops (as well as in the air). Nice work Alex! There's hope yet, LOL.

08-23-10, 04:55 AM	#6
AOTD_MadMax Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bremen/Germany Posts: 749 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 1	Hi Keltos, in FOTRS i got an Avenger ! There is also an Dauntless ! You can use them if you want ! Regards Maddy __________________ AOTD is gone, iam the last survivor ........

08-23-10, 08:35 AM	#7
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	we definetely will use them !!! thanks Maddy glad to see you're still around k __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

08-24-10, 01:07 AM	#14
keltos01 Silent Hunter Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milan Italy Posts: 4,999 Downloads: 114 Uploads: 18	nice accurate models even with bomb doors closed would do . The hardest part is that IMO there isn't a real dynamic campaign : if you sink those US carriers early in the war there should be repercussions, there should be something happening because of your actions.. but there isn't, this is most frustrating... keltos __________________ "Honorable Builder of Sinking Ships"

08-24-10, 04:19 AM	#15
AOTD_MadMax Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bremen/Germany Posts: 749 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 1	I know that the TBF got the Torpedo inside but i have tested it out with the Betty in FOTRS. When you put the Torps inside the Hull of an Plane the Torpedo will not run to the target. They all gone lost on the seaground. Torpedos must be outside of the Hull if they should work. You will make me happy when you find out a way to make that run ! Regards Maddy __________________ AOTD is gone, iam the last survivor ........

08-21-10, 02:57 AM	#2
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	You could talk to Alex. Check his model out. http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3875/avenger.gif

08-21-10, 09:48 AM	#4
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Yes Alex is becomeing quite the 3D modeler. Now he just needs to get the models to someone to do the imports. Or get busy and do it himself.

08-23-10, 08:40 AM	#8
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The torpedo should be internal on the TBF. As should the bomb load. Since the models don't care, the B nodes can simply be bumped inside.

08-23-10, 05:30 PM	#9
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Once the nodes are moved inside. Do some fancy work and make the Bomb doors open. It can be done if you really want it to happen.

08-23-10, 05:38 PM	#10
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Not sure anyone dumb enough to stay on the surface in the face of a TBF should be rewarded with something as cool as that

08-23-10, 07:52 PM	#13
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	IMHO any effort to do this would be wasted. Eye candy is only as good as the least pretty part of whatever the eyecandy is. The planes behave so little like actual aircraft, seeing the door open is sort of overkill. YMMV.