65th anniversary of JV day

ETR3(SS) · 08-15-10, 10:19 PM

I'll take a stab at that, September 2, 1945 with the signing in Tokyo Bay onboard the USS Missouri.

Sailor Steve · 08-16-10, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

I'll take a stab at that, September 2, 1945 with the signing in Tokyo Bay onboard the USS Missouri.

Not even close.

Raptor1 · 08-16-10, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Not even close.

If that's the case, September 12th, 1990.

Sailor Steve · 08-16-10, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

If that's the case, September 12th, 1990.

I'll bite. What happened on that date?

Raptor1 · 08-16-10, 08:51 AM

The 'Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany' was signed, in which the Allies formally ended their occupation of Germany which followed World War II.

Perhaps a better date would be January 25th, 1955, when the Soviets formally ended the state of war between them and Germany (The last country to do so, AFAIK).

Sailor Steve · 08-16-10, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

The 'Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany' was signed, in which the Allies formally ended their occupation of Germany which followed World War II.

That's a good one. Was it a real peace treaty, or just a formality? Well, they're all formalities in that respect, so I guess it doesn't matter.

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Perhaps a better date would be January 25th, 1955, when the Soviets formally ended the state of war between them and Germany (The last country to do so, AFAIK).

Wow! I think you've got me beat! That was one I hadn't paid attention to.

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Ok so what is the answer then?

I suspect that Raptor1's second answer is better than mine. What I was actually going for was the Treaty of San Francisco, signed in September 1951 and in force in April 1952.
http://www.taiwandocuments.org/sanfrancisco01.htm

Raptor1 · 08-16-10, 04:27 PM

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That's a good one. Was it a real peace treaty, or just a formality? Well, they're all formalities in that respect, so I guess it doesn't matter.

Of course it's a formality, any date after August 23rd is a formality of some sort.

It's considered by some to be the final peace treaty of the war in Europe, because it is the only one that included all major Allied powers (France, the UK, the US and the Soviet Union) and both East and West Germany.

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I suspect that Raptor1's second answer is better than mine. What I was actually going for was the Treaty of San Francisco, signed in September 1951 and in force in April 1952.
http://www.taiwandocuments.org/sanfrancisco01.htm

I completely forgot about that one, actually.

ETR3(SS) · 08-16-10, 10:52 AM

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Not even close.

Ok so what is the answer then?

mako88sb · 08-16-10, 11:29 AM

From Wikipedia:

"President Truman officially declared an end to hostilities by Presidential Proclamation on December 31, 1946"

Do you know the reason for this Sailor Steve?

Gerald · 08-16-10, 11:41 AM

Jimbuna · 08-16-10, 01:55 PM

Well whatever the date, looking at my post at #43 I'm thinking there will be some little known detail or technicality behind the answer.

One answer could be 'it's still not over' because as far as I know the small state of Andorra (perched in the mountains between Spain and France) never actually recognised or signed any peace treaty with Germany and are therefore still technically at war with her

Gerald · 08-16-10, 02:09 PM

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Well whatever the date, looking at my post at #43 I'm thinking there will be some little known detail or technicality behind the answer.

One answer could be 'it's still not over' because as far as I know the small state of Andorra (perched in the mountains between Spain and France) never actually recognised or signed any peace treaty with Germany and are therefore still technically at war with her

response, good to know from a trustworthy source

TLAM Strike · 08-16-10, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

One answer could be 'it's still not over' because as far as I know the small state of Andorra (perched in the mountains between Spain and France) never actually recognised or signed any peace treaty with Germany and are therefore still technically at war with her

I think that was from WWI no WWII. Andorra and the Kaiser finally declared peace in 1958.

08-16-10, 02:18 PM

Are there still allied troops in Germany, some 60+ years later?

TLAM Strike · 08-16-10, 02:24 PM

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Are there still allied troops in Germany, some 60+ years later?

You seriously asking? Have never heard of this place?

08-15-10, 10:19 PM	#1
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	I'll take a stab at that, September 2, 1945 with the signing in Tokyo Bay onboard the USS Missouri. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

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Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	The 'Treaty on the Final Settlement with Respect to Germany' was signed, in which the Allies formally ended their occupation of Germany which followed World War II. Perhaps a better date would be January 25th, 1955, when the Soviets formally ended the state of war between them and Germany (The last country to do so, AFAIK). __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,816 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Well whatever the date, looking at my post at #43 I'm thinking there will be some little known detail or technicality behind the answer. One answer could be 'it's still not over' because as far as I know the small state of Andorra (perched in the mountains between Spain and France) never actually recognised or signed any peace treaty with Germany and are therefore still technically at war with her __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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mako88sb XO Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 423 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	From Wikipedia: "President Truman officially declared an end to hostilities by Presidential Proclamation on December 31, 1946" Do you know the reason for this Sailor Steve?

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