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Old 08-09-10, 05:06 PM   #1
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Like MicroSoft, Google is too large and needs to be broken up. I don't care if they have broken new ground, invested their own money, or taken risks.

We want them to do one thing....give the rest of us a chance, or your money.
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Old 08-09-10, 05:24 PM   #2
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Heh. At some point there will be cameras flying around the size of insects!!!
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Old 08-09-10, 05:31 PM   #3
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SSShhhhhh!!! Google is watching even now! Seriously. Google it.
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Old 08-09-10, 06:30 PM   #4
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Gotta love the lone comment on this story.
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Old 08-09-10, 06:42 PM   #5
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I think I'll get myself a shotgun, somehow. A Tunguska probably is out of my reach. An ICBM that could reach Google HQ I also would not say No to, if it's for free.

I saw a docu today about space debris, from malfunctioning satellites to tiny tids and bits the size of 1mm in diameter. The waste flood up there is almost no longe trackable and controllable. The perspective that our oh so high tech madness maybe could get grounded because of space pollution was an idea i took some queer comfort from.
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Old 08-09-10, 08:13 PM   #6
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Google, a tool just like many other players in the market

right of exploitation as they earn your interests well.
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Old 08-09-10, 08:20 PM   #7
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I think I'll get myself a shotgun, somehow. A Tunguska probably is out of my reach. An ICBM that could reach Google HQ I also would not say No to, if it's for free.

I saw a docu today about space debris, from malfunctioning satellites to tiny tids and bits the size of 1mm in diameter. The waste flood up there is almost no longe trackable and controllable. The perspective that our oh so high tech madness maybe could get grounded because of space pollution was an idea i took some queer comfort from.
An MG-42 or 44 should be within your reach.
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I think I'll get myself a shotgun, somehow.
Bamboo stick wrapped in a vine, filled with charcoal, surfer, potassium nitrite, and rocks.

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I saw a docu today about space debris, from malfunctioning satellites to tiny tids and bits the size of 1mm in diameter. The waste flood up there is almost no longe trackable and controllable. The perspective that our oh so high tech madness maybe could get grounded because of space pollution was an idea i took some queer comfort from.
I read a theory that one major collision could result in debris hitting other objects creating a domino effect that would wipe out all the satellites in LEO.

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An MG-42 or 44 should be within your reach.
Or a Mosin Nagant or PPSh-41. Sky should be able to find ammo for any of those just by digging in his back yard.
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Old 08-09-10, 09:04 PM   #9
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Like MicroSoft, Google is too large and needs to be broken up. I don't care if they have broken new ground, invested their own money, or taken risks.

We want them to do one thing....give the rest of us a chance, or your money.
Unfortunately the only way to do that is with government, and government has also become too large and needs to be broken up. Who's going to do that for us?
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Stop saying you are going to "Shoot it down" "Grab a shotgun" or other idiotic statements about committing a crime.


You know what these are far more likely used for? Detailed overhead images of parts of highways, parks, areas to the public interest. I highly doubt the goal of this is to get overhead images of your pool. Tho I would be glad if they sent a few to the greeks to help catch tax cheats.
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Old 08-10-10, 02:39 AM   #11
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Stop saying you are going to "Shoot it down" "Grab a shotgun" or other idiotic statements about committing a crime.
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You know what these are far more likely used for? Detailed overhead images of parts of highways, parks, areas to the public interest. I highly doubt the goal of this is to get overhead images of your pool. Tho I would be glad if they sent a few to the greeks to help catch tax cheats.

"Likely" is just not good enough. Over here the private sphere of people is protected and guaranteed by laws. Obedience to the law (in this case a protective law) is not to be left to probabilities, but it is to be controlled, systematically or in random chances or both in turns, and is to be enforced where it gets violated. Unfortunately data protection laws in the US are not wort the name, compared to our standards, and the whole country is much more uncritical to digital data security and protection of the private sphere than it is the case over here at least by theb intentions of our lawmakers and public opinion. Google effecticely is allowed to partially work in a void free of legal rules and uncomfortable control, and nobody knows what ammount of datasets they are keeping - wihtout being legitimised by an electorate to do so or given such powers by a constitutional state body or public authority.

when private business is by implication allowed more data keeping rights than our police and intelligence services, but is not bound to legal standards in forms of the laws that regulate police and intelligence, then something is wrong, and the risk for abusing such data is not something you talk of in terms of "being likely", but you can be almst sure - becaseu Google does not do this for free, but for making money. Even more worrying it becomes when considering the effect for the cultural face of our society that the systemtic and intended destruction of privacy has, as it is done and promoted byx for example social networks like Facebook. I do not know why they are called social networks. "Antisocial networks" would be matching them much better.

For the same reason several other applications by Google, including the data kraken "Chrome" and "Google Search", shouldn'T be like they are: sources of behavior information that is being combined with other data on a given user to establish hopefully complete consummation and psychologixal profiles than then can be sold around to business companies, without being bothered by any laws regulating this market.

So, if Google let'S flying drones fly around, shooting them down is probably the best you can do. Stopping the data flow by legal means, getting back data that already has been collected and saved somewhere, compares to trying to push the djinni back into the bottle.
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Old 08-10-10, 02:55 AM   #12
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Then if you do something as stupid as trying to shoot one down I look forward to hearing of your arrest Skybird.
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Old 08-10-10, 03:28 AM   #13
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I bet you would. for some people, the realm of formalities is always more important than reality. Destroying freedom or pirvatesphere is very much okay for some - if it is done with laws prohibiting to defend it.

That way, one can mess up things and erode our society from within - legally.
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