playable carriers

iowa101 · 08-06-10, 07:34 PM

touch a nerve did i, not bring funny but i have played with a carrier, and it wasnt useless, in fact i went solo, just fine thankyou.

if you read my post then you would know that, i have had the carrier before, i have enjoyed playing with it.
i have a model to use and apparently people have alot of spare time, beens this forums amount of mods go up pretty slowly.

i dont me to be rude, but when someone like you says that crap to me it pisses my of.
and that quote, wasn't an insult.

i meant that if they had the ability to do it, then why not, it isnt hard to give someone some help.
i have wanted to add to this mod list for sometime, but i have a slight problem.

my brain cant process stuff easily and i doubt that you could comprehend how difficult it is for me to even learn basic knowlegde.
on top of that my favirate class of ship is a carrier, and yet some people see fit to tell me to get lost when i ask if it would b possible for someone to help me.

ETR3(SS) · 08-06-10, 07:46 PM

Well not everybody who frequents the forums is a modder. In fact most aren't and just use a mod created by others. The vast majority that are modders are tied up in their own projects. So it's not that we won't, it's that we can't, we're busy already. Will someone make a playable carrier again? Probably, since as you say one has been made before. Will they stop what they're doing to make it right now? Probably not.

tater · 08-06-10, 08:58 PM

Actually, if you read the various threads about playable ships, or adding ships or submarines to the game, you will in fact find long tutorials on doing just that.

At the top of this forum is a modding sticky. Inside are links to many things you will need. Unless you have the Pro version of sketchup, you cannot export obj files I believe, and getting it out of that format (sketchup) is also not something many freeware things (any?) will do.

A playable CV came up a few times, and I always say the same thing:

The SH4 engine is incapable of even the most crass approximation of CV ops.

The game will not engage (or DRAW, lol) enemies far enough away to be realistic. There is no way to require steaming at a given speed to create the right amount of wind over the deck. There is no way to send planes for a strike vs CAP, etc, etc, etc.

So it's a wasted effort, IMHO. SH4 manages submarine simulation OK. Not great, but "OK." The increased complexity of even unrealistic CV ops? Not in the least.

peabody · 08-06-10, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iowa101

touch a nerve did i, not bring funny but i have played with a carrier, and it wasnt useless, in fact i went solo, just fine thankyou.

if you read my post then you would know that, i have had the carrier before, i have enjoyed playing with it.
i have a model to use and apparently people have alot of spare time, beens this forums amount of mods go up pretty slowly.

i dont me to be rude, but when someone like you says that crap to me it pisses my of.
and that quote, wasn't an insult.

i meant that if they had the ability to do it, then why not, it isnt hard to give someone some help.
i have wanted to add to this mod list for sometime, but i have a slight problem.

my brain cant process stuff easily and i doubt that you could comprehend how difficult it is for me to even learn basic knowlegde.
on top of that my favirate class of ship is a carrier, and yet some people see fit to tell me to get lost when i ask if it would b possible for someone to help me.

No, you did not touch a nerve. But it appears I did, and did not mean to "piss you off".

But I do not see how mods going up slowly means people have a lot of spare time. Maybe it mean it takes a long time to do them, and a lot of the modders have "moved on" or are busy, because there are a lot of names missing lately.

And nowhere did I tell you to 'get lost'. Only trying to explain why it is hard to get modders to spend the time to make a carrier playable. If you enjoy it then great. If I find one, I will let you know.

Peabody

iowa101 · 08-06-10, 10:09 PM

i have found one before, the person had a filefront page with a few ships including carriers, the enterprise, lexington and essex, but i cant find it anymore tho.
is there anyway to search for users that have silent hunter mods on file front.

and the tutorials you spoke of barely have any info that i could follow. they miss out alot of info and i cant follow unless given a step by step guide.

i know that i have to clone a the ship, but other than that i have no clue
if someone with experience could do a quick but decent tutorial that would help alot

sona1111 · 08-07-10, 09:02 AM

I could have sworn their was at least one in the playable ships list too.

I still have one on my comp, though i know its not exactly what you are looking for. It has a bad damage model, and its very weak, but it does have deck guns and flak guns and...alot of planes..lol.

Also i did not actually make this, but i am not sure who the author is.

install with jsgme:

http://cid-bf0816341229f8c.office.live.com/embedicon.aspx/.Public/Taiho^_2.zip

iowa101 · 08-07-10, 11:21 AM

i cant download it, it say something about it being missing

sona1111 · 08-08-10, 12:14 AM

idk it works for me but whatever here is another one:

http://www.filefront.com/17183013/Taiho_2.zip

ivank · 08-08-10, 12:35 AM

you found my ships!? Great!

08-06-10, 07:46 PM	#2
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	Well not everybody who frequents the forums is a modder. In fact most aren't and just use a mod created by others. The vast majority that are modders are tied up in their own projects. So it's not that we won't, it's that we can't, we're busy already. Will someone make a playable carrier again? Probably, since as you say one has been made before. Will they stop what they're doing to make it right now? Probably not. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

08-08-10, 12:35 AM	#9
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	you found my ships!? Great! __________________ Head of The Surface Warfare Super-Mod Team Leutnant z. S. David U. Ziegler U-105 IXB On Patrol 1

08-06-10, 07:34 PM	#1
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	touch a nerve did i, not bring funny but i have played with a carrier, and it wasnt useless, in fact i went solo, just fine thankyou. if you read my post then you would know that, i have had the carrier before, i have enjoyed playing with it. i have a model to use and apparently people have alot of spare time, beens this forums amount of mods go up pretty slowly. i dont me to be rude, but when someone like you says that crap to me it pisses my of. and that quote, wasn't an insult. i meant that if they had the ability to do it, then why not, it isnt hard to give someone some help. i have wanted to add to this mod list for sometime, but i have a slight problem. my brain cant process stuff easily and i doubt that you could comprehend how difficult it is for me to even learn basic knowlegde. on top of that my favirate class of ship is a carrier, and yet some people see fit to tell me to get lost when i ask if it would b possible for someone to help me.

08-06-10, 08:58 PM	#3
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Actually, if you read the various threads about playable ships, or adding ships or submarines to the game, you will in fact find long tutorials on doing just that. At the top of this forum is a modding sticky. Inside are links to many things you will need. Unless you have the Pro version of sketchup, you cannot export obj files I believe, and getting it out of that format (sketchup) is also not something many freeware things (any?) will do. A playable CV came up a few times, and I always say the same thing: The SH4 engine is incapable of even the most crass approximation of CV ops. The game will not engage (or DRAW, lol) enemies far enough away to be realistic. There is no way to require steaming at a given speed to create the right amount of wind over the deck. There is no way to send planes for a strike vs CAP, etc, etc, etc. So it's a wasted effort, IMHO. SH4 manages submarine simulation OK. Not great, but "OK." The increased complexity of even unrealistic CV ops? Not in the least.

08-06-10, 10:09 PM	#5
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	i have found one before, the person had a filefront page with a few ships including carriers, the enterprise, lexington and essex, but i cant find it anymore tho. is there anyway to search for users that have silent hunter mods on file front. and the tutorials you spoke of barely have any info that i could follow. they miss out alot of info and i cant follow unless given a step by step guide. i know that i have to clone a the ship, but other than that i have no clue if someone with experience could do a quick but decent tutorial that would help alot

08-07-10, 09:02 AM	#6
sona1111 Watch Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 24 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I could have sworn their was at least one in the playable ships list too. I still have one on my comp, though i know its not exactly what you are looking for. It has a bad damage model, and its very weak, but it does have deck guns and flak guns and...alot of planes..lol. Also i did not actually make this, but i am not sure who the author is. install with jsgme: http://cid-bf0816341229f8c.office.live.com/embedicon.aspx/.Public/Taiho^_2.zip

08-07-10, 11:21 AM	#7
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	i cant download it, it say something about it being missing

08-08-10, 12:14 AM	#8
sona1111 Watch Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 24 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	idk it works for me but whatever here is another one: http://www.filefront.com/17183013/Taiho_2.zip