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![]() Sorry, couldn't resist. The reason you get so much resistance from me is not that you disagree, but that you come across as 'preachy'. In fact in my own head I see you as a religious fanatic, talking down to people because you "know" that you're right. I say that not to insult you, because I don't know you at all or what you are actually like. But that's how you come across, at least to me. I, on the other hand, "know" that I'm wrong, or at least that there's a good chance I am. My absolutism on freedom is nowhere near as absolute as you might think, but the people I deal with daily are the ones who want to take away freedom from a different angle. They would erode our freedoms in the name of "saving our country", i.e. take away freedom in the name of preserving it. I see this not in you personally, but in some of the things you've said. It really is a fine line, and to me some of your ideas seem to be of the nature I fight against the most. I really do see some of your ideas as just as dangerous as those you oppose. That said, I won't address the answers you gave, not because I dismiss them, but because they were reasonable and certainly have some merit, so I have to think about them for awhile. Thanks for actually laying all that out for me. ![]()
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As was pointed out in the Spiegel article once you cut through the "outrage" she was calling for something in the media that Saxony journalists already have themselves as part of their own charter, and her other "contraversial" thing was about the preservation of a secular state. So since she was argueing for integration which you want, and against a religious state which you don't want then how can your statement remain when she is in agreement with you and you are objecting to the very things you are calling for??????? Though its not as funny as Skys attempt to link her to people who link to groups who want completely different things and paint it as part of his united jihadi conspiracy theory. |
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Second arguing for integration is one thing. To make the media write only positively about a certain ethnic group is not arguing but simply glossing over realities. Why should a newspaper whitewash things just because immigrants have been involved? Again extra rights for them? Being untouchable for the media while they can write what they want about every native German? This is not integration! It's censorship and whitewashing of realities. Maybe we should ask ourselves why there is supposedly a need to do so? Is it that certain people appear more often in the negative news than they should according to their numbers?
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"A representative of the German Journalists' Association in the state described Özkan's initiative as superfluous, noting that similar language was already contained in the journalists' code of conduct in the state." Damn that German media for reporting that eh. ![]() Quote:
So if you don't want to bring it into the debate Schroeder then don't link to a story its in. ![]() It does nicely illustrate the media outrage angle though doesn't it, as they got all flusterd about banning crucifixes as thats popular outrage the muppets can really hate, while ignoring banning the headscarves as they don't want them damn muslims stealing their thunder on popular outrage that they are selling the muppets. ![]() |
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